The Future of the Machine Nation ?

Is this site intended to be permanent if P.ie is dead?

Will it keep going in the event of a P.ie revival?

cactus flower wrote:

Is this site intended to be permanent if P.ie is dead?

Will it keep going in the event of a P.ie revival?

I think it should. It's a much more comfier atmosphere.

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

Leaving those and many other noxious possibilities aside, is it a lot to ask of the site's Onlie Begetters Audi and Evotingmachine to sustain it ? It is a popup ad free zone: are there costs? If someone set up a P.O. Box no I would send half my pocket money this week.

I also find it comfier, and did not like the irrational deity aspect of P.ie, nor its evident tolerance of wholesale incursions from the the UK facist right. But I miss some of the head to head stuff that came with the party political posters. I learned a lot in a short time from posters of all kinds.

Can machinenation set up fora for the political organisations, or would that be premature?

I haven't a clue what's going to happen with this place but I hope it lasts. It's good enough so far though I wonder do we need a bit more knifing and biting and handbagging around the place to get people riled up...? As long as it's responsible then it can't be bad.

It's a free site and I can switch on the ads if you want.

I learned rakes of stuff from p.ie too and I hope we get a similar atmosphere here eventually but it could take a while.

I'd prefer if there were no party organisation forums though if people ever come to discuss Northern Ireland then I suppose we should have a NI forum.

By all means wear your party insignia - you're in Anarchist Land here so wear what you like.

How quickly you forget P.ie ... you b'st**ds

Still, move on and all that..

(Love the new smilies)

cactus flower wrote:

Is this site intended to be permanent if P.ie is dead?

Will it keep going in the event of a P.ie revival?

Much and all that I appreciate this refuge whilst P.ie is offline, I very much look forward to the return of P.ie.
That being said,however, I cannot see any reason why this forum should not continue;after all, competition is good.

i don't know how you can compare a site with handful of users to p.ie

of course it comfier no-ones here

lostexpectation wrote:

i don't realy how you can compare a site with handful of users to p.ie

of course it confier no-ones here

This is so true lostexpectation, we are rattling around in here. I suppose a problem is uncertainty as to whether and when P.ie will ever revive. Even if we knew for sure it that it won't, i don't know what it would take to develop a full-scale political forum of similar scale. I guess it could not be done overnight.

Evotingmachine and Auditor did a magnificent rescue job, but we are essentially sitting on a little life raft isolated from the wider universe.

I feel strongly that even with its various difficulties P.ie provided a very valuable debate space and I would hate to see that gone for good.

It is all the more frustrating because of the world is going very wobbly at the moment and needs a lot of posters to work things out.

I will try ringing DC tomorrow.

Any other suggestions?

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

cookiemonster wrote:

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

For some reason (perhaps the 'cookie' bit) I read that as the Jewish Baking Conspiracy. Now I want a bagel.

cookiemonster wrote:

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

Fuist, you're not supposed to know.

Jesus I can't tell you anything.

ibis wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

For some reason (perhaps the 'cookie' bit) I read that as the Jewish Baking Conspiracy. Now I want a bagel.

Anyone ever wonder by 'classic bagels' have bacon in them?

riadach wrote:

ibis wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

For some reason (perhaps the 'cookie' bit) I read that as the Jewish Baking Conspiracy. Now I want a bagel.

Anyone ever wonder by 'classic bagels' have bacon in them?

I try not to wonder about bagels at all if I can wonder about cookies instead.

A more important question might be whether anyone has wondered why bagels don't have chocolate in them

Cookies are a torrid, brief but memorable affair whereas bagels are a long and tedious commitment. "still chewing, after all these years" I think is the theme song Paul Simon might have written for them.

Kate P wrote:

riadach wrote:

ibis wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

riadach wrote:

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

I can't think of any reason why it can't.

I could think of a few,

nuclear holocaust,

mass genocide,

the free masons.

And of course the Jewish Banking NWO conspiracy.

For some reason (perhaps the 'cookie' bit) I read that as the Jewish Baking Conspiracy. Now I want a bagel.

Anyone ever wonder by 'classic bagels' have bacon in them?

I try not to wonder about bagels at all if I can wonder about cookies instead.

A more important question might be whether anyone has wondered why bagels don't have chocolate in them

Cookies are a torrid, brief but memorable affair whereas bagels are a long and tedious commitment. "still chewing, after all these years" I think is the theme song Paul Simon might have written for them.

That's why I consider it a conspiracy. It's not right or normal to want a bagel.

you can't underestimate p.ie and dc, its annoying he hasn't keeping people informed, it'll be back in week or two and all will forgiven.

lostexpectation wrote:

you can't underestimate p.ie and dc, its annoying he hasn't keeping people informed, it'll be back in week or two and all will forgiven.

I think he's busy destroying Europe.

lostexpectation - a week or two? how do you know that?

as cookiemonster says the man is caught up in sabotaging Lisbon agreements... p.ie is down for months if not forever because no-one has a clue why it's down at all do they?

Auditor #9 wrote:

lostexpectation - a week or two? how do you know that?

as cookiemonster says the man is caught up in sabotaging Lisbon agreements... p.ie is down for months if not forever because no-one has a clue why it's down at all do they?

Indeed, it's been a week or two already. However, I expect that it will be back up. DC gave no sign of having packed in the game, although I'm slightly surprised by the complete lack of any information.

Meanwhile, this place is now 40 posters. I'm quite impressed.

I made it

Many were lost, but I got out alive.

Thank God I've found you

johnfás wrote:

I made it

Many were lost, but I got out alive.

Thank God I've found you

Tá fáilte romhat. Someone will be along with a cup of tea for you in a minute.

Weyhey !!!

johnfás sorry we're all out of teabags as we were only expecting a few bodies. How's this? (sorry .. )



Now, you are a poster who would be hard to find I'd say - we've been out on the net looking for lost people, up and down forums left right and centralist looking for people. YOu are a good surprise. Welcome !!

Auditor #9 wrote:

I learned rakes of stuff from p.ie too and I hope we get a similar atmosphere here eventually but it could take a while.

I'd prefer if there were no party organisation forums though if people ever come to discuss Northern Ireland then I suppose we should have a NI forum.

By all means wear your party insignia - you're in Anarchist Land here so wear what you like.

Sounds good, Didn't like the party forums and the cliques that were implicit there. Have to hand it to the mods and their moderating policy DGDS. hope we keep it that smple here

Yes the DGDS rule was simple and will apply here. It had the benefit that posters, being adults, evoked it automatically without the intervention of moderators. We were all there for a good rant and head-banging session now and then and we had a responsibility to mind our space. I think we largely did that but I just wonder on those Bertie/Tribunal threads whether it went off the rails ...?