Yanks and Guns

It's a bit like this isn't it?



American Beauty

youngdan wrote:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675

Good God what a story. That lady was sueing the state of Texas for not allowing her to carry a gun around in her purse when she most needed it? That was a very graphic account. Shocking.

It would be even more shocking if you were familiar with Senator Schumer who was the guy in the background who was shown looking disinterested in what she was saying. They are afraid because Americans have guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quNEzN0_toc

See how the wolli-wollis kept away from the Koreans. No cops in sight

Why is the USA such a violent place? It seems you would be safer walking through the streets of Damascus, Berlin or Delhi than most US cities. There is something very wrong with the country and attitudes.

Ireland is almost as bad per capita.

youngdan wrote:

Ireland is almost as bad per capita.

Dan, you are 6 times less likely to be murdered in Ireland than you are in the USA and that's not just because we don't have to live with you.

youngdan wrote:

Ireland is almost as bad per capita.

Is that now or when they were busy in slaughter up north?

If both are the same then a society that does not own guns is as safe as one that writes their ownership into their constitution?

Here is a table that shows USA in there with Bulgaria and Armenia, which is surprisingly good given all the fuss.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

Ireland is well down the list.

Yes going on the figures of say 2002. For them to be comparible Ireland would need about 300. This year it could top 100 so it is getting there. There has got to be about 20 or more so far. Violence is set to rise in both places

It has nothing to do with guns, these savages will kill one another with machettes or like the knacker who hit the garda in Galway with a hatchet

tonys wrote:

youngdan wrote:

Ireland is almost as bad per capita.

Dan, you are 6 times less likely to be murdered in Ireland than you are in the USA and that's not just because we don't have to live with you.

youngdan wrote:

Yes going on the figures of say 2002. For them to be comparible Ireland would need about 300. This year it could top 100 so it is getting there. There has got to be about 20 or more so far. Violence is set to rise in both places

Ireland's yearly gun crime rate is equivalent to the gun crime rate in the US on a weekend, according to CSO comparative studies.

See, no sooner has diplomatic communication been restored, you agree with me. The knackers and murderers in Ireland will lightly kill 100 this year mostly without guns. Clearly if a man wants to kill his wife, the absence of a firearm will not deter him. Anything from a slap to a slash-hook will do.

The murder rate in Latvia is 3 times that of the US.

The sad fact is they are scumbags over there(Latvia) and life is cheap

When exactly did the Scumbag Shortage develope in Ireland. I don't remember a shortage. But I guess they imported about a million bastards to make up the numbers.

As usual given a bit of time I am proven right. The atitude of doing the ostrich last year by many here that there was no gun crime in Ireland was disgracefull and they should apologise to me.

At least Papal has accepted reality.

I see some lad got shot in Galway last night. No big deal, who knows what he was. I know Ballybane well, full of knackers. Then you have Moldovian scum having shootouts in Lucan. Not many knackers in Lucan so foreign knackers are shipped in.

The thing about this incedent is that the knacker that is being kept alive at great expense was packing as well. The only fool without a gun was the young garda. I presume there is some idiot as the minister of justice who decided a detective can not carry his sidearm when off duty.

They will have to change the joke about bringing a knife to a gunfight to bringing a hurl to a gunfight. The garda is lucky not to be dead.

I thought there was a recession back there. The dole must be great if these scum are driving round in mercs armed to the teeth. Fair play to everyone for paying for them in these hard times.

Does anyone have the name of whatever genius is the justice minister. An Einstein I am sure.

The justice minister is Dermot Ahern at the moment.

Have any of ye got links for stats to these statistics ? I don't doubt you youngdan that ireland is no angel but I'd like to see the figures coming from yourself. As Squire says above there in nationmaster, Ireland is way down on that list of offenders.

Maybe if you take every incident of violence little and large around the country every day of every hour of every ..

They are all back in the thread. The state with the most guns is Vermont and it has about 8 murders a year which is a lower rate than Irelands by about 10%. But lets call them the same for argument sake.

The murder rate depends on the socio-economic level of the people plain and simple. That is why Columbia and South Africa are top. They are savages.

Squire put the stats up a few hours ago

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

You also have to bear in mind that in South Africa and similar all murders and robberies are not recorded. South Africa is not a safe and peaceful place.

Interesting to note that the Arab countries are at the bottom of the list. A lot of countries missing.

There was a shooting in Limerick last night as well making it 3 that I see. More the Massachusetts with twice the population.

Where is cactus and evm now

youngdan wrote:

They are all back in the thread. The state with the most guns is Vermont and it has about 8 murders a year which is a lower rate than Irelands by about 10%. But lets call them the same for argument sake.

The murder rate depends on the socio-economic level of the people plain and simple. That is why Columbia and South Africa are top. They are savages.

Squire put the stats up a few hours ago

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

Now there you go - on a list of 62 countries showing per capita murders USA #24 Ireland #55. Even Iceland kills more people than we do per 1000 (they kill 0.0168499 people per thousand)

Ireland is safe enough so far if you exclude the knife crime. But that's off topic on a gun thread

For north america, Mexico is #6, US #24 and Canada #44 - it gets safer as you approach iglooland. Are the stats for Alaska low too I wonder? So the USA is pretty savage as well for a "modernized western power". Don't the Canadians have guns too but they only kill 0.0149063 people per 1000 whereas the US kills 0.042802 people per 1000. That's a big difference - I think it's nearly three times as many people per 1000.

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Josh, the United States is number 24.

It IS the highest of the most modernized, first-world post-industrial countries by a large margin, however, 4 per 1000 as opposed to the UK, Australia, Canada 1 per 1000. However, the population of the United States is much higher than these countries, which can skew statistics (believe it or not).

The Moldovan man's kids are getting counselled since they witnessed the shooting of their father. Horrific.

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A man remains in a critical condition in hospital this morning following a shooting at a garda sports and social club in Dublin yesterday.

The Moldovan national was shot while sitting in a car outside the club in Westmanstown, near Lucan, at around lunchtime.

His three daughters - aged 10, eight and two - were with him at the time and witnessed the attack.

Unarmed and off-duty gardaí tackled the gunman and managed to arrest him.

He is also from Moldova and is being held at Lucan garda station.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyauauaumhid/

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A man was in a stable condition in hospital today after he was wounded in a shooting.

Gardaí said shots were fired at a house in the Raheen area of Limerick at 3.50am.

“A man was wounded in the back in the incident and was taken to the local Mid Western Regional Hospital,” said a Garda spokeswoman.

“His current condition is being described as stable.”

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyauauaueyql/

youngdan wrote:

There was a shooting in Limerick last night as well making it 3 that I see. More the Massachusetts with twice the population.

Where is cactus and evm now

Here I am youngdan.

In the last week we've had two sets of armed robbers arrested by unarmed guards (if you discount the hurley stick) and you've had one 11 year old shoot his dad's pregnant girfriend before getting on the school bus and going to school.