Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:16 am
I am not casting any aspersions just an observation. I hope they are effective and wish them well, but have doubts.
By the same token I really would like to see Bush and Co end their days behind bars.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:40 am
Obama picks his Treasury Secretary - Timothy Geithner, head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
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Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama picked Timothy Geithner, head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, to be his Treasury secretary, with Lawrence Summers getting a senior White House role, a Democratic aide said.
Obama is also likely to nominate New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson as Commerce Secretary, and to announce his picks on Nov. 24, the person said on condition of anonymity.
Geithner has helped lead U.S. efforts to combat the deepest financial crisis in seven decades, helping oversee the decisions this year to intervene in American International Group Inc., rescue Bear Stearns Cos. and leave Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. to fail. Summers was Bill Clinton’s last Treasury secretary, and is now a professor at Harvard University.
Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:51 am
This is a Democratic Dream Team and it's brilliant! It's like 1998 all over again. The Clintons had a great government and this one is already shaping up to be a stunner. Farewell Bushies and thanks for nothing!
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:12 pm
Should have just voted for Hillary.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:36 am
Ard-Taoiseach wrote:
This is a Democratic Dream Team and it's brilliant! It's like 1998 all over again. The Clintons had a great government and this one is already shaping up to be a stunner. Farewell Bushies and thanks for nothing!
I would have thought, Ard, that you would have leaned slightly more towards the Republicans than to the Democrats. I am not as taken with the Clintons as you seem to be but I am glad to see you can speak so enthusiastically about the "Democratic Dream Team". After 8 years of President Bush-Cheney, any Democratic administration is a dream team.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:42 am
Slim Buddha wrote:
Ard-Taoiseach wrote:
This is a Democratic Dream Team and it's brilliant! It's like 1998 all over again. The Clintons had a great government and this one is already shaping up to be a stunner. Farewell Bushies and thanks for nothing!
I would have thought, Ard, that you would have leaned slightly more towards the Republicans than to the Democrats. I am not as taken with the Clintons as you seem to be but I am glad to see you can speak so enthusiastically about the "Democratic Dream Team". After 8 years of President Bush-Cheney, any Democratic administration is a dream team.
After Bush a slightly animated tub of cream cheese would be better.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:42 am
Anything from philadelphia is always lovely...
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:45 am
Slim Buddha wrote:
Ard-Taoiseach wrote:
This is a Democratic Dream Team and it's brilliant! It's like 1998 all over again. The Clintons had a great government and this one is already shaping up to be a stunner. Farewell Bushies and thanks for nothing!
I would have thought, Ard, that you would have leaned slightly more towards the Republicans than to the Democrats. I am not as taken with the Clintons as you seem to be but I am glad to see you can speak so enthusiastically about the "Democratic Dream Team". After 8 years of President Bush-Cheney, any Democratic administration is a dream team.
I dislike the fact that they took a highly successful economy with high growth rates, budget surpluses, controlled inflation, rising real incomes, reasonable debt levels, manageable current account deficit and a strong currency and utterly wrecked it. The Republicans under the Bushes and Reagan do not hold a candle to Clinton in terms of social and economic advancement. I would've considered John McCain to be a reasonable choice on the Republican side had he picked someone like Charlie Crist or Colin Powell to be his running mate and actually stood by the record he had built up as a Senator. Unfortunately he picked Sarah Palin who, although attractive, was not the ideal and said to me that he would perpetuate the failures which were replete during the Bush years. If we lived in an ideal world, Hillary would be president-elect now, but, unfortunately, that is not the case. Barack Obama is the pragmatic choice in these circumstances and there is still every possibility for Hillary Clinton to run in either 2012 or 2016 and carry on the great work started in 1992.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:04 am
johnfás wrote:
Anything from philadelphia is always lovely...
Especially the sound of Gamble-Huff. A match for HDH any day.
Regarding the Obama administration, I am prepared to wait 6 months to see how it shapes up. While I am delighted that the Democrats control Congress and the White House, I am of the belief that the problems are so enormous that there is only about a one-minute honeymoon period after the Inauguration Ceremony available to the President-Elect before he starts the job in earnest. Within 6 months we will know the extent to which he will remove some of the more regressive legislation wirtten by David Addington and implemented by the Bush-Cheney Presidency. Maybe youngdan is right, maybe Obama will keep all this stuff in place. We shall see.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:07 am
There is some sharp criticism coming from the US that Obama has appointed an economics/finance team who are deeply implicated in the present crisis. There is perhaps a dilemma, in that everyone with any high level experience is probably equally implicated. Did he have any better options?
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:09 am
I would imagine that is pretty much the case cactus. That or you bring in someone from the 1970s who is now about 80. The Americans have a great way of putting people who are well past retirement age into key positions. I am not agist or anything but there must come a stage where it is better to have people a little younger in positions.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:17 am
johnfás wrote:
I would imagine that is pretty much the case cactus. That or you bring in someone from the 1970s who is now about 80. The Americans have a great way of putting people who are well past retirement age into key positions. I am not agist or anything but there must come a stage where it is better to have people a little younger in positions.
Well, Obama himself adds balance, I suppose.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:36 am
It should be obvious to all that Obama is doing what he is told by now.
Slim, you can bet your bottom dollar that things will be the same as with Bush but worse.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:22 am
youngdan wrote:
It should be obvious to all that Obama is doing what he is told by now.
Slim, you can bet your bottom dollar that things will be the same as with Bush but worse.
I would prefer to think otherwise, youngdan, but the pragmatist in me leans very much to your assessment of things.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:52 pm
Schiff thinks Geithner will be irrelevant to the plummet of the dollar. Our beardy friend themodernmystic also feels it will explode with banking and other bailouts totalling an equivalent of the U.S. annual GDP or at least a huge fraction of it - around 7 trillion in bailouts in the pipeline when the U.S. GDP is about 14 trillion.
What currencies are we expecting the dollar to fall against ? For the Foreign Exchange watch thread:
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:11 pm
youngdan wrote:
It should be obvious to all that Obama is doing what he is told by now.
Slim, you can bet your bottom dollar that things will be the same as with Bush but worse.
I disagree with that view. The people Obama is assembling are far superior to the neocon fools in the Bush-Cheney Administration. Rahm Emanuel will be a far more forceful and effective Chief of Staff than his two predecessors, I have more faith in Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State than Condoleeza Rice, Timothy Geithner should at least be marginally better than Hank Paulson, Tom Daschle should be quite good at Health and finally Obama himself, alongside a Senate oldhand Joe Biden will be far and away an improvement on the chicanery, failure, disaster and sinister cynicism of Bush and Cheney. I am no major fan of Obama but I certainly disagree with the notion that he will be worse than Bush. Bush is the worst president ever of the United States and Obama will not be taking that title in his eight years.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:42 pm
Only you could say that the neo-con fools are gone when the WH Chief of Staff is an Israeli soldier.
Obama is the worst president ever and he hasn't even been elected yet.
It is great seeing intelligent people refusing to believe their eyes.
Robert Rubin is picking the economic team. So we have one Goldman Sacks CEO taking over from another.
Nobody is talking CHANGE anymore as the leftie donkeys realise they are suckers.
They thought Bush and Cheney were going on trial. The muttonskulls will watch as the get millions from speachs and companies.
There is no dumber beast on Earth than a democrat voter.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:45 pm
So is it doom then ?
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:55 pm
Only to the poor lugs that fell for the emptiest election tripe even peddled to morons
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:26 am
This person seems to be a good example of an eejit who now realises that Obama is a bigger neocon than Bush. He points out even that Slick Barry, as Defeated Romanticist calls him, has not appointed anyone who voted against the war to anything.
This is because it is not Slick who is doing the appointing.
So are your eyes just telling you lies.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:23 am
max Keiser is also saying that Geithner is a neo-liberal.
Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:37 am
Audi
The salient part of that is the point about the need for radical realignment of currencies. It is what enables the trade imbalance and makes it impossible for the West to compete in many sectors. That realignment needs to happen but will be resisted by countries who are keeping their currencies low and who are in turn returning that money to the USA etc in loans. Forget the nonsense about cheap imports being good, uncompetitive practices are bad and are a hostile act and should be treated as such. It is deliberate and systematic. Why are the Chinese buying junk US treasuries?
This sick game was probably a good idea originally, so that some growth in the likes of China could start but it has been perpetuated as policy and is destroying the basis of trade which is the exchange of goods not the accumulation of debt. It is insidious and the destruction it will cause is on a par with what happened to China in the opium wars.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:52 am
Squire - the present situation is untenable, but protectionism and war are historically hand in glove, and would surely be deflationary, as the global economy would contract?
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:39 pm
Cactus Flower.
Protectionism never went away it was just less obvious and took less obvious forms. As for war we are seeing it played out in one unfortunate country after another. It hasn't happened in western Europe because of the EU but look at the systematic attempt to undermine the Russian sphere of influence, surely you don't believe that there wasn't considerable outside interference? Conversely there are many who would love to see the EU fragment.
Pick a country whose resources you want and a government who wont cooperate, or a country who competes, look for the freedom fighters or an opposition party and find a way to finance. Sow the seeds of discontent. Count the countries with oppressive planted regimes or with active on going civil wars and uprisings. It is frightening.
Beware strange politicians who rise from nowhere for these things seldom happen by chance.
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Subject: Re: The Obama Administration / State of the Union Address Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:18 pm
Squire wrote:
Audi
The salient part of that is the point about the need for radical realignment of currencies. It is what enables the trade imbalance and makes it impossible for the West to compete in many sectors. That realignment needs to happen but will be resisted by countries who are keeping their currencies low and who are in turn returning that money to the USA etc in loans. Forget the nonsense about cheap imports being good, uncompetitive practices are bad and are a hostile act and should be treated as such. It is deliberate and systematic. Why are the Chinese buying junk US treasuries?
This sick game was probably a good idea originally, so that some growth in the likes of China could start but it has been perpetuated as policy and is destroying the basis of trade which is the exchange of goods not the accumulation of debt. It is insidious and the destruction it will cause is on a par with what happened to China in the opium wars.
Are they still buying them ? I'm guessing it's some sort of trick again with the dollar being the reserve currency of the world although I just don't know to be honest. There are 2, 3 and 10 year bonds and they say it's this market is the one to watch - is it though ?
Could the Chinese be investing in a potential future new Green Profit Bubble coming out of the Obama Administration ? Have you any idea if the likes of Geithner could do or will do anything to influence the dollar trend if there is one ?
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