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Nothing there to suggest that he is either, it merely states that he frequents the place. Beyond which, what difference does it make if he is a member, it is merely a gentleman's club. That said, I am suspicious of gentleman's clubs which have websites but that is another matter entirely.

johnfás wrote:

Nothing there to suggest that he is either, it merely states that he frequents the place. Beyond which, what difference does it make if he is a member, it is merely a gentleman's club. That said, I am suspicious of gentleman's clubs which have websites but that is another matter entirely.

" side
of him that belongs to the Naval & Military Club" CNBC article indicates he is a member therefore he does uphold the traditions of the British Armed Forces. the boys out in Straide will be delighted.

PeopleKorps wrote:

Ruth Dudley Edwards tells us that Declan Ganley gave a lunchtime talk
to in the House of Commons on Tuesday 10 Feb to an audience of mainly
young people who thought him a hero for his role in the 'No' vote on
Lisbon. the youths were "Eurosceptic to the point of Europhobia".
Edwards who is known for taking a sympathetic approach to the Northern
Irish Unionist perspective in Irish history also has a soft spot for
Ganley or "sympathetically disposed" as she says herself.

More selective quoting from the obsessed "peoplekorps"

Ruth Dudley Edwards wrote:

In the House of Commons at Tuesday lunchtime, Declan Ganley had an audience of mainly young people who thought him a hero for his role in the 'No' vote on Lisbon. But while I would guess most of them are Eurosceptic to the point of Europhobia, he came across as anything but. "Ireland is the weakest EU link," said one questioner, hoping that Lisbon would be rejected again. "No," said Ganley. "Ireland is the anchor."

For Ganley, another 'No' to Lisbon would be a blow for accountability and reform: it would be pro, not anti, Europe. His quarrel with the EU is that its institutions have gone from being non-democratic to anti-democratic.

"We lend -- not give -- power to politicians," he said. "That's what they've forgotten. Europe can be reformed. Don't just give up on it. We could ignite a new renaissance. Take a risk. Take a punt on Libertas."

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards/even-our-principles-have-become-institutionalised-1640585.html

I think there is a link to that there under sympathetically disposed see here
So I guess that covers that. What is it with your leader and men in uniform?

Frightened Albanian wrote:

I think there is a link to that there under sympathetically disposed see here
So I guess that covers that. What is it with your leader and men in uniform?

No it doesn't. "Peoplekorps" convenietly left out the part were Ganley answers the questions and later concludes "What does it say about a man who claims to be pro European, pro transparency and anti-elite when he speaks to anti European audiences" which is an obvious and deliberate attempt to paint him as eurosceptic.

Does:

Declan Ganley wrote:

"We lend -- not give -- power to politicians,"
"That's what they've forgotten. Europe can be reformed. Don't just give up on it."

Sound eurosceptic? Does that sound like something a eurosceptic audience would want to hear?

I think "Peoplekorps" is a Ganley obsessed weirdo crackpot, and a running joke at this stage.

cookiemonster wrote:

Frightened Albanian wrote:

I think there is a link to that there under sympathetically disposed see here
So I guess that covers that. What is it with your leader and men in uniform?

No it doesn't. "Peoplekorps" convenietly left out the part were Ganley answers the questions and later concludes "What does it say about a man who claims to be pro European, pro transparency and anti-elite when he speaks to anti European audiences" which is an obvious and deliberate attempt to paint him as eurosceptic.

Does:

Declan Ganley wrote:

"We lend -- not give -- power to politicians,"
"That's what they've forgotten. Europe can be reformed. Don't just give up on it."

Sound eurosceptic? Does that sound like something a eurosceptic audience would want to hear?

I think "Peoplekorps" is a Ganley obsessed weirdo crackpot, and a running joke at this stage.

I would tend to agree that it doesn't really matter what Ganley says he finds veracity an illusive dream (George and Tammy for our US friends, Ray and Philomena here).
Therefore we can only judge by his audiences and supporters who are Euro haters in general.
It is clear that Ganley has recently had a moment on his road to Damascus, he decided it would sell him better to Europeans if he claimed not to be "eurospectic" but "pro European" , an you talk of distortion.

Anyway I see Robin Matthews has an interesting past. Is he still a serving soldier?

Frightened Albanian wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Frightened Albanian wrote:

I think there is a link to that there under sympathetically disposed see here
So I guess that covers that. What is it with your leader and men in uniform?

No it doesn't. "Peoplekorps" convenietly left out the part were Ganley answers the questions and later concludes "What does it say about a man who claims to be pro European, pro transparency and anti-elite when he speaks to anti European audiences" which is an obvious and deliberate attempt to paint him as eurosceptic.

Does:

Declan Ganley wrote:

"We lend -- not give -- power to politicians,"
"That's what they've forgotten. Europe can be reformed. Don't just give up on it."

Sound eurosceptic? Does that sound like something a eurosceptic audience would want to hear?

I think "Peoplekorps" is a Ganley obsessed weirdo crackpot, and a running joke at this stage.

I would tend to agree that it doesn't really matter what Ganley says he finds veracity an illusive dream (George and Tammy for our US friends, Ray and Philomena here).
Therefore we can only judge by his audiences and supporters who are Euro haters in general.
It is clear that Ganley has recently had a moment on his road to Damascus, he decided it would sell him better to Europeans if he claimed not to be "eurospectic" but "pro European" , an you talk of distortion.

That's nonsense. Telling Eurosceptics you are pro-EU and that you wish to see it's reform rather than it'd demise, telling Eurosceptics that you wish to see more EU than less, telling Eurosceptics that you want an elected president to represent the people of Europe is not the way one could go about getting the Eurosceptic vote, never mind it not being the way you would talk if you yourself were a eurosceptic. Trying to paint him as one is really sad at this stage. But what would one expect from an obsessed oddball like "peoplekorps".

You can email him at peoplekorps@gmail.com.


So why do his meetings only attract eurosceptics and how come his supporter like De Villier and Klaus are also eurosceptics?

Ganley is a poster boy but the questions raised over his inability to tell the truth have merit

Frightened Albanian wrote:

You can email him at peoplekorps@gmail.com.

Why in God's name would I want to contact that freak?

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So why do his meetings only attract eurosceptics and how come his supporter like De Villier and Klaus are also eurosceptics?

Why does Ganley never talk like a Eurosceptic at any meeting? Because he isn't one.

What is he , an elistist against elites, a democrat against democracy, an advocate of transparency who is secretive and opaque?

A europhile who has formed a party with Europhobes, rightwing nutters of every shade hard right. He is now playing for the Catholic vote, I note that your friend peoplekorps has posted links to ¨Pax Christi , those type of Catholics won't take to Ganley nor his divisive message. I have already written to Benedict to ask him not to meet Ganley until after these various election.



Catholics on Gaza

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

toxic avenger wrote:

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

And standing infront of them and telling them that the EU fundamentally a great idea and worth saving is totally the way to go about courting your vote too, isn't it TA?

toxic avenger wrote:

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

And I, on the other hand, like my EU dull and legalistic, thanks. Also non-federal and secular.

toxic avenger wrote:

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

Phillipe de Villier is for a federal Europe is he?

Plus only Catholics who believe in military Crusade our version of Jihad support him...that is another lunatic frindge

cookiemonster wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

And standing infront of them and telling them that the EU fundamentally a great idea and worth saving is totally the way to go about courting your vote too, isn't it TA?

Yep, the best...

Frightened Albanian wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Hang on a second, I'm a Eurosceptic (well, Europhobe really), and I don't support Libertas for precisely the reason that they are Europhiles (they actually want a federal EU, the horror). Only Eurosceptics who haven't acquainted themselves with Ganley's words on the topic would cheer him to the rafters...

Phillipe de Villier is for a federal Europe is he?

Care...

Frightened Albanian wrote:

Plus only Catholics who believe in military Crusade our version of Jihad support him...that is another lunatic frindge

There are Catholics who believe in that? Where are these chain-mailed warriors when I go to Mass? People dress so badly these days..

toxic avenger wrote:

Frightened Albanian wrote:

Plus only Catholics who believe in military Crusade our version of Jihad support him...that is another lunatic frindge

There are Catholics who believe in that? Where are these chain-mailed warriors when I go to Mass? People dress so badly these days..

Well if you looked past the obvious and saw that Ganley is actually a super secret Eurosceptic you would be invited to his secret lair and you could have secret mass with the Knights Who say No...

cookiemonster wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Frightened Albanian wrote:

Plus only Catholics who believe in military Crusade our version of Jihad support him...that is another lunatic frindge

There are Catholics who believe in that? Where are these chain-mailed warriors when I go to Mass? People dress so badly these days..

Well if you looked past the obvious and saw that Ganley is actually a super secret Eurosceptic you would be invited to his secret lair and you could have secret mass with the Knights Who say No...

Or try my hand to hand combat techniques out on his two body guards Robin and Kevin, oooaaawww

Frightened Albanian wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Frightened Albanian wrote:

Plus only Catholics who believe in military Crusade our version of Jihad support him...that is another lunatic frindge

There are Catholics who believe in that? Where are these chain-mailed warriors when I go to Mass? People dress so badly these days..

Well if you looked past the obvious and saw that Ganley is actually a super secret Eurosceptic you would be invited to his secret lair and you could have secret mass with the Knights Who say No...

Or try my hand to hand combat techniques out on his two body guards Robin and Kevin, oooaaawww

Right...

Why are the warriors Cookie?

Does the recruitment of Robin Matthews herald Libertas's Balaclava?
"Into the valley of death rode the six hundred" (corresponds to Libertas's Facebook membership and Robins regiment is the Light Brigade

Does the recruitment of Robin Matthews herald Libertas's Balaclava?
"Into the valley of death rode the six hundred" (corresponds to Libertas's Facebook membership and Robins regiment is the Light Brigade