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You are both right.

It is settled and it is adjourned. Ganley is both exposed and vindicated.

Good night all. Very Happy
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cookiemonster wrote:
Anticoalition wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
cactus flower wrote:
Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

There are links in my reply. The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Anticoalition is claiming that the issue has been settled when it has not and also that there is no case, when the link I have provided states that there is a case. There is no interpertation needed, the case is adjourned for 2 weeks. It's quite clear and quite simple.

Hi Cactus.

Here is a link that pretty well sums up what happened today. Ganley and Village Magazine settle dispute

The dispute is over. It is settled.
It is neither over nor settled, the case has been adjourned for two weeks.

Tell it to the Belfast Telegraph. Tell it to The Irish Times and tell it to RTE.

You know what?

Sue them.

I'm just the messenger.

They all got it wrong and it is extremely damaging to Mr Ganley's character, and you should both go to court in the morning for an injunction, first thing.

Good night!
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Anticoalition wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
Anticoalition wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
cactus flower wrote:
Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

There are links in my reply. The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Anticoalition is claiming that the issue has been settled when it has not and also that there is no case, when the link I have provided states that there is a case. There is no interpertation needed, the case is adjourned for 2 weeks. It's quite clear and quite simple.

Hi Cactus.

Here is a link that pretty well sums up what happened today. Ganley and Village Magazine settle dispute

The dispute is over. It is settled.
It is neither over nor settled, the case has been adjourned for two weeks.

Tell it to the Belfast Telegraph. Tell it to The Irish Times and tell it to RTE.

You know what?

Sue them.

I'm just the messenger.

They all got it wrong and it is extremely damaging to Mr Ganley's character, and you should both go to court in the morning for an injunction, first thing.

Good night!

Say what you like, the case has not been settled yet it has been adjourned for two weeks once the court reconvenes and the case is closed then you can say it has been settled.
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The thread will be locked now due to prolonged circular posting. It will be reopened tomorrow.
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Thread opened. It will be modded without mercy. Please would you post civily and ensure that speculation and idle head battering is avoided in favour of informative discourse. Any assertion that a post is a lie must be substantiated in detail or it will be deleted.
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On 2 Feb Libertas launched in Poland and Ganley spoke to 700 people. the Irish Times stated that "The Polish Libertas line-up has yet to be finalised but is expected to
draw on figures from the populist Self Defence party and the ultra-Catholic League of Polish Families (LPR), an anti-abortion,
anti-Semitic, anti-gay grouping."

Today People Korps points out a rather bizarre bedfellow for the Pro European Ganley
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Ganley supported by anti-democtaric Polish group Unia Polityki Realnej


Polish support for Ganley comes from Janusz Korwin-Mikke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janusz_Korwin-Mikke


Declan Ganley alleges that the EU lacks of democracy. The video is made by and hosted by Korwin-Milke's monarchist, anti- democratic, anti-socialist, and Eurosceptic party Unia Polityki Realnej
(Antydemokratyzm, Antysocjalizm, Eurosceptycyzm)

The below interview brought to you by Polish supporter of Ganley Janusz Korwin-Mikke's UPR have posted this video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janusz_Korwin-Mikke.
http://www.uprtv.pl/uprtv/uprtv_index.php

Janusz Korwin-Mikke is an advocate of monarchy and a member of Klub Zachowawczo-Monarchistyczny (Conservative-Monarchist Club). He is known for his disdain towards democracy.

What strange bed fellows. Ganley looking for democracy being advertised by a man who disdains democracy
See the video of Ganley made and disseminated by UPR
http://peoplekorps.blogspot.com/2009/02/polish-support-for-ganley-comes-from.html
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Any blood on the floor of TCD tonight so?
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toxic avenger wrote:
Any blood on the floor of TCD tonight so?

Have no idea..........life intervened

We can ask Cookie how they got on, I presume they that they will say Caroline was magnificent etc...........
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Frightened Albanian wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Any blood on the floor of TCD tonight so?

Have no idea..........life intervened

We can ask Cookie how they got on, I presume they that they will say Caroline was magnificent etc...........

Caroline is always magnificent, but I'll leave judgement on her performance tonight to more objective observers.
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Was D'Estaing annihilated in your estimation?
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Frightened Albanian wrote:
Was D'Estaing annihilated in your estimation?

No, I thought he spoke well.
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cookiemonster wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
Was D'Estaing annihilated in your estimation?

No, I thought he spoke well.

that's white of you, he was President of France they tend to have spoken well in the old days. Groomed for office.
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Cookie you didn't tell us about the flyers that were being given out?


People Korps and Michael Martin discuss Ganley on Libertas Nein Danke
I'm not a Eurosceptic, Innit" Ganley protests his innocence

and re Bruce Arnold and Dick Roche


good point about the moral compass
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Bruce Arnold in today's Indo: Declan Ganley is the victim of a shameful smear campaign

'Dick Roche is still looking. He has found nothing'

"The truth is, Ganley won. The others lost. The Government made a mess of the campaign.

While Cowen and Roche fumbled their way towards defeat, Ganley focused on what was wrong with the European Union. He mounted an unwavering campaign. He led the 'No' vote groups in a detached way, making no alliances, dismissing ideas that were central to other 'No' voters.

The Cowen-led government then made an extraordinary mistake, indicating they would seek to reverse the decision. Brian Cowen advised Gordon Brown to ratify the Lisbon Treaty. This approach, relayed to Europe, was supported by Martin.

'No' vote activity might have declined, with the Government achieving their objectives in a subtle way. Instead we had angry confrontation. Motivation for trying again should have come from Europe, with a reluctant Dublin Government sticking with the democratic choice. Hearts and minds would have changed. Instead, the Dublin Government led the charge, insulting 'No' voters, siding with defeated.

This astonished Europe. The French presidency responded warmly, Nicolas Sarkozy visiting Dublin to seek the second referendum. This move had further negative effects. Sarkozy's new form of EU democracy was what Declan Ganley's Libertas opposed.

There was a campaign against Ganley's political credibility. The allegations to destroy him have not been established. From the start they served a political purpose, to divert responsibility for the Irish 'No' vote into stories about political funding.

What Ganley has said on Europe's democracy is never reported. The December Summit dealt with peripheral matters, ignoring his criticisms. This lack of fairness and balance is reprehensible. We should be ashamed of ourselves."

full article here: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/declan-ganley-is-the-victim-of-a-shameful-smear-campaign-1639858.html
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Bruce Arnold and Dick Roche posted above cookie,
PK
has a few points there
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No
Free Lunch:Ganley's Irish Independent hack Bruce Arnold attempts to
divert from Libertas' disarray with accusations of smears.





Libertas Lackey Bruce Arnold has
claimed that there is a smear campaign against Ganley which seems to
involve everyone who has ever spoken out against him or Libertas.
Arnold attended the Ganley dinner with Czech Eurosceptic President
Vaclav Klaus as a guest of Ganley held court. Full guest list at
bottiom of post. This dinner was Ganley's attempt to show himself as a
regal and real player and was a deliberate attempt by him in
collaboration with a state visitor who came at Irish taxpayers exspense
to embarrass the Irish government . Ganley stage managed the event to
turnthe Lisbon No vote into his own personal mandate. Howevethe dinner
was seen asa delibertae insult to the Irish people as Klaus was their
guest.


Arnold asks questions in his piece about Ganley's
eastern activities. He does not answer them. When he next dines with
Mr. Ganley could he please find out the truth behind Ganley's Anglo
Adriatic Investment Company and publish that? If Declan Ganley answered
questions more forthrightly, then the confusion about his past and his
current program would be resolved for once and for all. Arnold does not
refer to the personal vendetta that Ganley and Libertas are waging
against Minister for European Affairs Dick Roche. Their website host
two recent attacks on him from Ganley while Arnolds article is yet
anotther attempt at the same. Ganley is still smarting from being
caught out over his claim his nationality was listed as British on his
company returns due to a mistake "box filling". Roche pointed out on
live radio that they were handwritten.

Perhaps Ganley and Arnold should take note of Roche's comments in the Dail (Irish parliament) on Thursday about Irish bankers
Friday, February 13, 2009Roche accuses bankers of 'complete lack of moral compass'


MINISTER
OF State for European Affairs Dick Roche has accused senior bank
executives of arrogance in claiming their actions were “not criminal”. Mr Roche also accused the banks of “cute hoorism” and “hubris”. He
told the Dáil: “It is intolerable to read of senior bankers suggesting
that their actions were not criminal, and that this is in some way an
exoneration of those actions. This suggests that there was a complete
lack of moral compass at some levels in Irish banking. Logic went out
the door and greed was the motivator.”
Perhaps Roche has a nose for people who have" lost their moral compass".


While
Arnold presents Ganley as a victim anyone who watched the Primetime
show on ganley may take a differnet view. Arnold cannot ignore the
contradictions between Ganley's staemnts and those of other people
featured. Especially moving was the old pensioner who had lost his
savings in Ganley International's Anglo Adriatic Investnet Fund.

Perhaps Roche has a nose for people who have" lost their moral compass".
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That is a fair point, re Arnold. This is the second defence of Deco that Bruce has foisted on the Indo's readers.
Is he also going to run for Liberatas?

This spinning of interrogation and questioning of Ganley on his past and his principles that renders it A SMEAR in Libertas' eyes does not bode well for a future that they might hold political power in.

The BCC report on Primetime noted that such questioning is normal in a democracy. Perhaps Ganley and his pals like Bruce Arnold have forgotten that they have not won yet..............democracy still exists.

In the meantime Chairman Ganley should answer the questions


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Frightened Albanian wrote:
That is a fair point, re Arnold. This is the second defence of Deco that Bruce has foisted on the Indo's readers.
Is he also going to run for Liberatas?
barnold@independent.ie ask him.
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This spinning of interrogation and questioning of Ganley on his past and his principles that re,nders it spin in Libertas eyes does n,ot bode well for a future that they might hold political power in.
What?

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The BCC report on Primetime noted that such questioning is normal in a democracy. Perhaps Ganley and his pals like Sruce Arnold have forgotten that they have not won yet..............
Care to respond to the points in the article?

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democracy still exists.
As long as you vote the right way.
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I have repeatedly dealt with the points raised by Arnold. They are on a level with the Libertas supporters on various boards. Point out anything that I have missed that is new pls
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Frightened Albanian wrote:
I have repeatedly dealt with the points raised by Arnold. They are on a level with the Libertas supporters on various boards. Point out anything that I have missed that is new pls

Right, well done. very comprehensive of you.
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THANKS
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The half-arsed attempts to smear Ganley by his right wing rivals are pathetic. There is no political critique for two reasons - one is that Ganley has clutched his politics tightly to his chest and fought the anti Lisbon campaign on the weakness of his oponents, rather than on his own views. The other is that their own politics aren't that far from Ganley's.

What I find far more disturbing is the apparent willingness of the left to compromise core strategic political differences and pull punches on Ganley for some imagined tactical gain.

Ganley's politics judged on his own statements and the political character of the people across Europe who have aligned themselves with Libertas are most closely aligned here to Coir and the Hibernian, with a US right wing libertarian economic stance. Although some left groups kept a distance during the Lisbon campaign, there is no sign of them exerting consistent effort to expose Ganley for what he is politically. I would be very happy to be corrected on that if I'm wrong.
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Arnold does not include Mamon Poulet or People Korps in his list. Nor does he include Bonnie Carroll , Dzaniel Sudnick, T. Christaian Miller from th LA Times,Alketa Alibali from Rinascita Balcanica


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Frightened Albanian wrote:
I have repeatedly dealt with the points raised by Arnold. They are on a level with the Libertas supporters on various boards. Point out anything that I have missed that is new pls

Sadly the other thread on this issue has, once again in true Stalinesque fashion, disappeared.


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In his review, O’Connell claims EU proceedings were “used as a platform for repeating smears and giving them greater credibility without the slightest application of rational inquiry”.

Ganley has said any funding of his Libertas campaign during the Lisbon treaty referendum was within Irish rules and his party has dismissed the claims relating to US interference as “attacks on the messenger” that are inaccurate and unfounded.

He said a number of US officials stated that the American government did not fund the Libertas campaign or support it in any way, but that politicians in Brussels ignored this in order to continue its “smear campaign”.

Such findings are worrying and reveal the fragile state of the democratic institutions of the European Union and the ease at which the can be abused and undermined by those in power against ordinary individuals who question their wasteful and antidemocratic actions.

In the finding of his report Mr. O’Connell states:

“I believe that Mr. Ganley has been the subject of a sustained and coordinated information campaign intended to destroy his political credibility. The allegations against him were not reasonably substantiated and they served a political purpose. This was to divert the responsibility for the Irish ‘No’ vote on the Lisbon Treaty onto stories about political funding.
From my search for smearing characteristics in the Press cuttings, I conclude that two smears have been applied to Libertas and Mr. Declan Ganley. What I have called the ‘US Funding Smear’ and the ‘Irish Funding Smear’ coalesced into the ‘European Parliament Smear’, where the European Parliament adopted flimsy allegations of wrongdoing, dubious procedures were used and evidence in favour of Mr.Ganley was ignored. At the same time, major institutional mechanisms of the EU were brought to bear on him. “

He investigates the methods which were used to propagate the smears and identifies some worrying instances in which these smears are stated continuously despite statements and information which prove them to be nonsense.

He identifies how suspicion was raised over Libertas funding from American, CIA and Neo-Con sources and done so without any to information to support these allegations.

One of the more interesting things identified by Mr. O’Connell was how those against Ganley were using their own script which has little basis is things which were said by Mr. Ganley themselves.

On 1 June, the Irish Independent ran a story in which Lucinda Creighton talked about a lack of sincerity in the way Libertas was funded (mentioned above). Libertas responded that it was being funded totally by donations, many from big business, who felt the Irish Business and Employers Confederation (IBEC) had ‘sold them out’. Mr. Ganley stated categorically that Libertas had acted in accordance with electoral funding rules. He insisted that he would not respond to calls to reveal the identity of Libertas donors while the rules allowed him to protect their confidentiality. He said “We have a huge number of business donors who want to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, but we will reveal a list as soon as FF/FG shows theirs." In other words, he challenged the two main political parties to show the transparency they were demanding from Libertas. The article also carried a repeat account of the US Funding Smear and a rebuttal by Mr. McEvaddy to the effect that that the US establishment was in favour of Lisbon .


A statement made by Ganley in an article by Daniel McConnell in the Irish Independent on June 1st responding to the continued repetition of unfounded funding smears from FG’s Lucinda Creighton Mr. Ganley said:

"It's a little rich that people in Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are trying to lecture us about raising money, their records aren't squeaky clean. They set the rules up and we are in total compliance with their rules. We have a huge number of business donors who want to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, but we will reveal a list as soon as FF/FG shows theirs. Given what I have experienced, I'm not willing to expose them to that."

He notes that Stories about Libertas’s compliance with Irish electoral laws in Irish newspapers on 18, 19 and 20 September. And how the day after a radio interview on the 18th by Mr Ganley an article by Fionnan Sheahan reported that The Environment Minister John Mr. Gormley stated that Libertas had acted lawfully under funding rules and also reported the content of Mr. Ganley’s radio interview the day before.
The article went on to say “Until now, Mr Ganley had always maintained Libertas got its funds from small donations and insisted he only gave a donation under the legal limit. But in a dramatic development, while speaking to ‘Today FM’, he finally admitted he was the biggest bankroller of the organisation, loaning Libertas €200,000 -- without any guarantee of getting it back”.
The Independent article from May reported Libertas claimed that its funding came from business. The references to small donations appear to come from the rhetorical imagery of Gay Mitchell. Within the legal terminology of Irish election law, a donation and a loan are different things and a loan is not subject to legal limits.
He comments:
“At the end of this three-day period, Mr. Gormley’s validation of the Libertas position had been reported and forgotten. Dramatic embellishments had been added: non-existent contradictions, non-existent admissions and non-existent burdens of proof. Only the purpose of this flurry of reports must have seemed unclear at the time.”

It seems that this modus operandi has continued on from this incident, unsubstantiated allegations and questions. What is most worrying is where this has continued to happen and when it enters the European Parliament.
But Mr. Ganley is not alone in being on the ********************ty end of the EP’s stick. I opened this blog with an entry on the misfortune of Hans-Martin Tillack. In the case of Mr. Tillack he was arrested by Belgian police after they were contact by OLAF who prompted his investigation based on nothing but rumour.

Once again rumour is the basis of proposed action by the European Parliament. On Monday 22 September the smears are repeared again. This time by Daniel Cohn-Bendit MEP “last weekend the Irish press revealed that there may be a link between those who funded the ‘no’ campaign in Ireland and the Washington Pentagon and the CIA. “In conjunction with EP President Hans-Gert Poettering “We need absolute transparency about the amount of money paid to Libertas, the organisation represented by Declan Ganley, and where the money came from. We learned from the Irish media – and I am repeating here what was reported last week in Ireland – that Mr. Ganley had claimed in the past that the donations came from quite ordinary people and that they were small donations. Now he has admitted that he himself made €200,000 of his own money available to the organization”

Note again the “donation from quite ordinary people” notion again with no mention of businesses at all.

Mr. O’Connell notes:
“It is worth mentioning that the allegation that Libertas accepted finance from the US CIA appears to be a criminal allegation under Irish Law . The European Parliament’s acceptance of a Press report as the basis of a criminal allegation appears disproportionate. This is not a way for an EU institution to treat information about a criminal allegation. Mr. Ganley’s rights are out of sight.”

Mr. Tillack anybody?

Mr. O’Connell also makes reference to actions by Hans-Gert Poettering’s staff which was mentioned in Bruno Waterfield’s blog and in Mark Mardell’s blog.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2008/09/24/eu_claims_irish_are_cia_stooges
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2008/10/get_ganley.html

He comments how on the 25th September the European Parliament’s ‘Conference of Presidents’ debated whether or not to set up Temporary Committee of Inquiry into the Financing of the Irish referendum campaign and how they had no authority to set up a Temporary Committee of Inquiry on a matter clearly outside the constitutional framework of the EC and EU Treaties and suggest this was done to add some “sham authority” to the smear.

How, despite comments by Mr. John D. Negroponte, US Deputy Secretary of State, attended the Philosophical Society, Trinity College, Dublin on the 17th on November who commented “…absolutely not! I say that on very good authority, not only being Deputy Secretary of State but also being a former Director of National Intelligence. Absolutely not” when asked “Has the government or the Bush administration provided any support either financial, moral or otherwise to Declan Ganley and the Libertas movement?”

And despite the moderator for the evening was Tom Conlan, also a journalist and the security analyst of the Irish Times the comments went unreported.

Mr. O’Connell’s reports extends to cover the litany of smears, all unfounded and executed in a calculated and underhanded manner against Mr. Ganley and Libertas and concludes:
“I conclude that the use of systematic smear campaigns may be debatable morally, but they undermine democracy when public institutions are used to increase their effectiveness.”
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