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cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

We all no we live in a cesspool of bias in this country. But not everyone goes to all the trouble to hold himself out as Mr Squeaky Clean, with the degree of holy righteousness as our Mr Ganley.

Mr Ganley will get no charity from me. It is a simple case of him either not being willing or able to prove the Village wrong, or both. Any way you look at it, when push came to shove, he did not even put up a fight to protect his good name. What does that tell you?

He doesn't have to prove Village wrong, the onus is on Village to prove Mr. Kevbar right. They're the libel laws here, like it or not (for the record I'm a 'not').

I've heard it all now. The gleeful lynchmob from p.ie coming over here giving lectures about libel laws. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

????? I state the simple and uncontestable fact that the onus is on the defendant in libel cases, then you attack me and tell me to be ashamed of myself? Wtf?

And I am saying that Ganley prevented the Village from proving that they were right, by dropping the case.

The case HAS NOT BEEN DROPPED. It has been adjourned.

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From experience, I think you have a very peculiar view of fairness, bias, and libel, as has been repeatedly shown on p.ie.

No, he is correct in saying that the onus is on the defendent in libel cases in ireland. There is nothing peculiar about this, it is correct.

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But we digress...

Let's get back to our other champion of free speech, Cookie, trying to shut down discussion here on the Dark Side of the Abbeyknockmoy Wonder Boy again,

That's a load of crap. I'm not trying to shut down anything. Cop yourself on.

The case was settled, and is basically over. The only reason they are going back to court is to make sure that Deco gets his interview published.

But the magazine remains on the shelves, and the Village doesn't have to, or even get to, prove anything.

Ganley's team buckled, balked, and bet it out of court as quick as they could, on his instruction.

And we, along with the rest of the world, are free to call him just about anything we like, within the law.

Thank God for machine nation. The best little chat show on the planet.

As for p.ie, and speaking of cops, I wonder what kind of vigorous investigation and comment on matters of public interest the Libertas Thought Cops are encouraging there right now?

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

We all no we live in a cesspool of bias in this country. But not everyone goes to all the trouble to hold himself out as Mr Squeaky Clean, with the degree of holy righteousness as our Mr Ganley.

Mr Ganley will get no charity from me. It is a simple case of him either not being willing or able to prove the Village wrong, or both. Any way you look at it, when push came to shove, he did not even put up a fight to protect his good name. What does that tell you?

He doesn't have to prove Village wrong, the onus is on Village to prove Mr. Kevbar right. They're the libel laws here, like it or not (for the record I'm a 'not').

I've heard it all now. The gleeful lynchmob from p.ie coming over here giving lectures about libel laws. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

????? I state the simple and uncontestable fact that the onus is on the defendant in libel cases, then you attack me and tell me to be ashamed of myself? Wtf?

And I am saying that Ganley prevented the Village from proving that they were right, by dropping the case.

From experience, I think you have a very peculiar view of fairness, bias, and libel, as has been repeatedly shown on p.ie.

But we digress...

Let's get back to our other champion of free speech, Cookie, trying to shut down discussion here on the Dark Side of the Abbeyknockmoy Wonder Boy again, while at the same time heralding Ganely's love for our right to right to engage in vigorous investigation and comment on matters of public interest

I read Kevin Barrington's article, Village would not be able in a month of Sundays to prove some of the stuff in it, if they could then Ganley would already be political history. My view of libel is the same as always, I don't like the restrictive libel laws in Ireland. I don't understand what you mean by my 'peculiar view of fairness and bias', if you could expand then I might address it. I don't think Cookie is doing any such thing, by the way, he has challenged you, that's his right, just as it is yours to challenge him. There is a certain onus though to provide facts and links, rather than vague innuendo.

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

toxic avenger wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

We all no we live in a cesspool of bias in this country. But not everyone goes to all the trouble to hold himself out as Mr Squeaky Clean, with the degree of holy righteousness as our Mr Ganley.

Mr Ganley will get no charity from me. It is a simple case of him either not being willing or able to prove the Village wrong, or both. Any way you look at it, when push came to shove, he did not even put up a fight to protect his good name. What does that tell you?

He doesn't have to prove Village wrong, the onus is on Village to prove Mr. Kevbar right. They're the libel laws here, like it or not (for the record I'm a 'not').

I've heard it all now. The gleeful lynchmob from p.ie coming over here giving lectures about libel laws. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

????? I state the simple and uncontestable fact that the onus is on the defendant in libel cases, then you attack me and tell me to be ashamed of myself? Wtf?

And I am saying that Ganley prevented the Village from proving that they were right, by dropping the case.

The case HAS NOT BEEN DROPPED. It has been adjourned.

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From experience, I think you have a very peculiar view of fairness, bias, and libel, as has been repeatedly shown on p.ie.

No, he is correct in saying that the onus is on the defendent in libel cases in ireland. There is nothing peculiar about this, it is correct.

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But we digress...

Let's get back to our other champion of free speech, Cookie, trying to shut down discussion here on the Dark Side of the Abbeyknockmoy Wonder Boy again,

That's a load of crap. I'm not trying to shut down anything. Cop yourself on.

The case was settled, and is basically over. The only reason they are going back to court is to make sure that Deco gets his interview published.

But the magazine remains on the shelves, and the Village doesn't have to, or even get to, prove anything.

Ganley's team buckled, balked, and bet it out of court as quick as they could, on his instruction.

It's not settled, it's adjourned.

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And we, along with the rest of the world, are free to call him just about anything we like, within the law.

Thank God for machine nation. The best little chat show on the planet.

As for p.ie, and speaking of cops, I wonder what kind of vigorous investigation and comment on matters of public interest the Libertas Thought Cops are encouraging there right now?

What are you on about now? Again, is it possible for you to focus on one issue rather than hopping about all over the palce when your stance on one issue starts to slip and is revealed as the nonsense it's always been?

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

So, Ganley's counsel was not only going full speed ahead, but was seeking to expand the case to Michael Smith and to Kevin Barrington also. The interim period between that and the resolution and adjournment saw talks between Ganley's representatives and Village magazine. Thus, it's fair to conclude, Ganley relented once they admitted that they should have asked him his response to Barrington, and offered a full opportunity to him to respond next time. If Ganley were running scared, as you claim, he wouldn't agree to do any such interview, it would be easier to sit back and watch Village try to prove its case in court rather than have to answer probing questions himself.

Anticoalition wrote:

[b]Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village'

Sooo..., Gainley went in looking for an injunction, and came out with another media interview.

The magazine remains on the shelves, despite the latest victim story by Ganley.

Will this guy ever get tired of crying WOLF!?

We have just been dealing with this, the links has been given pages back, quotes taken from it in the page above. Why are you posting this now like it's new?

As I said earlier: Ganley's legal team agreed with The Village's legal team before it went to court on a statement to be read by The Village and for an interview to be published in the next edition. If Ganley "didn't have a leg to stand on" there would have been no agreement between the two parties. Also, the case isn't closed, it has been adjourned for 2 weeks.

I edited my post above, in reply. Goodnight boys n girls. Sleep well. I know I will

Anticoalition wrote:

I edited my post above, in reply. Goodnight boys n girls. Sleep well. I know I will

Just saw that and deleted my own. Thanks for that.


To the board

For copyright reasons we ask that if you are using an article please pick out the few lines that demonstrate your point and be sure to link to it. If people want to they can then follow the link to the whole article.

The newspapers need their clicks too.

Thanks all.

Anticoalition wrote:

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

As is his right to do so.

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"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

How many times do I have to tell you, THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. It as been ADJOURNED for two weeks!

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No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

Your views are one thing and you are entitled to them, your ability to report fact is entirely another and is factually incorrect despite repeated corretion.

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

As is his right to do so.

Quote :

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

How many times do I have to tell you, THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. It as been ADJOURNED for two weeks!

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No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

Your views are one thing and you are entitled to them, your ability to report fact is entirely another and is factually incorrect despite repeated corretion.

Cookie. I am trying to sleep.

Please re-read the Irish Times headline, which says: Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village'

And reprint, once more, the relevant statements in the article:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”.

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks."

Good night Cookie

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

As is his right to do so.

Quote :

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

How many times do I have to tell you, THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. It as been ADJOURNED for two weeks!

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No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

Your views are one thing and you are entitled to them, your ability to report fact is entirely another and is factually incorrect despite repeated corretion.

Cookie. I am trying to sleep.

Please re-read the Irish Times headline, which says: Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village'

And reprint, once more, the relevant statements in the article:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”.

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks."

Good night Cookie

The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Whatever outcome is achieved when the court reconvines and the case is then closed will be the outcome. Currently is has been adjourned for two weeks. headlines are irrelevant.

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

As is his right to do so.

Quote :

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

How many times do I have to tell you, THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. It as been ADJOURNED for two weeks!

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No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

Your views are one thing and you are entitled to them, your ability to report fact is entirely another and is factually incorrect despite repeated corretion.

Cookie. I am trying to sleep.

Please re-read the Irish Times headline, which says: Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village'

And reprint, once more, the relevant statements in the article:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”.

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks."

Good night Cookie

The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Whatever outcome is achieved when the court reconvenes and the case is then closed will be the outcome. Currently is has been adjourned for two weeks. headlines are irrelevant.

Cookie Cookie Cookie. "The parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them.

The matter was adjourned, so that the judge confirms that Mr Ganley has indeed gotten his share ofthe bargain, which is an interview in the Village. But the substance of the case is over by agreement of the parties. The agreement is based on the fact that Mr ganley withdrew his application for an injunction, in return for a right of reply. It was a deal. The case is over, once the deal is completed.

There was no hearing on the merits, because Mr Ganley decided he did not want one.

End of story.

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Anticoalition wrote:

Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village' - The Irish Times - Breaking News: states in relevant part:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”. Mr Ganley also claimed the article contained other untrue and serious allegations which bore the meaning that he, through his conduct concerning telecommunications contracts in Iraq, is responsible through corruption for the deaths of many police officers and soldiers."

"In an affidavit, Mr Ganley said all of the allegations made were “totally and utterly untrue” , without foundation and were “a deliberate attempt at character assassination”. His credibility and reputation are central both to his involvement in Libertas and to his professional life and Village had called these into question “and in fact goes further in that it expressly states that I am a fraud and a liar”, he said. "

- So, Declan sends the lawyers in...

As is his right to do so.

Quote :

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks. "

- Then he pulls them out again. There was no hearing, on the merits. The case was settled even before the replying affidavit from the Village could be read out.

How many times do I have to tell you, THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. It as been ADJOURNED for two weeks!

Quote :

No injunction. No case. The application for the injunction is over.

Instead, we got a judge mediated settlement of the dispute. Ganley gets to make a reply. And the magazine stays on the shelves.

I've already expressed my views on it. And I totally respect Toxic and Cookie's right to express theirs.

All is well

Your views are one thing and you are entitled to them, your ability to report fact is entirely another and is factually incorrect despite repeated corretion.

Cookie. I am trying to sleep.

Please re-read the Irish Times headline, which says: Ganley resolves proceedings against 'Village'

And reprint, once more, the relevant statements in the article:

"Libertas chairman Declan Ganley has resolved injunction proceedings against Village Magazine over an article which includes a quote from Government Minister Dick Roche describing Mr Ganley as a “snake-oil salesman”.

"However, after talks between the sides, Mr Finlay told Mr Justice John MacMenamin this afternoon the parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them and he was happy for Eoin McCullough SC, for the defendants, to read an agreed statement to the court and for the case to be adjourned for two weeks."

Good night Cookie

The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Whatever outcome is achieved when the court reconvines and the case is then closed will be the outcome. Currently is has been adjourned for two weeks. headlines are irrelevant.

Cookie Cookie Cookie. "The parties had come to a resolution of the differences between them.

[/b]The matter was adjorned, so that the judge confirms that Mr Ganley has indeed gotten his share of the bargain, which is an interview in the Village. But the substance of the case is over by agreement of the parties. The agreement is based on the fact that Mr ganley withdrew his application for an injunction, in return for a right of reply. It was a deal. The case is over, once the deal is completed.

There was no hearing on the merits, because Mr Ganley decided he did not want one.

End of story.

I'm afraid that is not currently the case, the case is not closed it has been adjourned for two weeks.

In the mean time a statement was read by the defendants in court “ Village Magazine strongly upholds its right to engage in vigorous investigation and comment on matters of public interest. Mr Ganley not only supports, but advocates this right.

“The Village however acknowledges that, given the opportunity, it would have been preferable to have interviewed Mr Ganley before publishing serious allegations about him. It has now been afforded this opportunity and will in its next edition, record and publish accurately the answers given by Mr Ganley in a wide-ranging interview relating to both the issues giving rise to these proceedings and to other issues of interest to Mr Ganley and to the public.”

Once the court reconvenes and the case is closed you can say that the matter has been settled. Not until that time.

But he didn't get an injunction, which is what he asked for in the first place.

He backed down, and declined to give the Village a chance to prove their arguments correct, and also decided not to give them an opportunity to prove Mr Ganley's allegations as spurious and indeed extremely damaging.

He made a load of allegations against the Village which he was not prepared to back up, at the end of the day.

He settled the merits of the case, and the matter is over. he didn't follow through. It was an in-court settlement, not a case.

There will be no hearing on the merits when the court convenes. That has already been agreed. The only thing they will talk about is whether Declan got his essay published. Otherwise, its over Cookie. You can call it whatever you want, but Ganley dropped his case, and that's that.

Anticoalition wrote:

But he didn't get an injunction, which is what he asked for in the first place.

yes, we know this.

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He backed down, and declined to give the Village a chance to prove their arguments correct, and also decided not to give them an opportunity to prove Mr Ganley's allegations as spurious and indeed extremely damaging.

That's not true. He did not back down, both sided came to an agreement to offer Mr. Ganley a right to reply.

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He made a load of allegations against the Village which he was not prepared to back up, at the end of the day.

The allegations are not his to back up, the onus to back up the allegations rests with the publishers.

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He settled the merits of the case, and the matter is over. he didn't follow through. It was an in-court settlement, not a case.

The case was adjourned for two weeks. As quoted from the article below.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0211/breaking82.html

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There will be no hearing on the merits when the court convenes. That has already been agreed. The only thing they will talk about is whether Declan got his essay published. Otherwise, its over Cookie. You can call it whatever you want, but Ganley dropped his case, and that's that.

There is no essay, it's an interview. It's over when the court reconvenes, which it will do in two weeks.

Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

cactus flower wrote:

Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

There are links in my reply. The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Anticoalition is claiming that the issue has been settled when it has not and also that there is no case, when the link I have provided states that there is a case. There is no interpertation needed, the case is adjourned for 2 weeks. It's quite clear and quite simple.

All right, carry on all night both of you by all means. So long as you are enjoying yourselves.

cactus flower wrote:

All right, carry on all night both of you by all means. So long as you are enjoying yourselves.

Yes, God forbid some actual truth appear in this thread from time to time.

cookiemonster wrote:

cactus flower wrote:

Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

There are links in my reply. The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Anticoalition is claiming that the issue has been settled when it has not and also that there is no case, when the link I have provided states that there is a case. There is no interpertation needed, the case is adjourned for 2 weeks. It's quite clear and quite simple.

Hi Cactus.

Here is a link that pretty well sums up what happened today. Ganley and Village Magazine settle dispute

The dispute is over. It is settled.

It did not go to court, because the parties agreed to cancel the case, and make an other arrangement. They cut a deal.

That is that fact.


Yes. There will be a hearing in the coming weeks, but that is not going to be addressing whether or not Declan Ganley is a fraud or a liar. It is going to address whether or not he got a right of reply.

I think the judge mistakenly thinks it still a weekly, so it actually could be a month before the hearing.

cookiemonster wrote:

cactus flower wrote:

All right, carry on all night both of you by all means. So long as you are enjoying yourselves.

Yes, God forbid some actual truth appear in this thread from time to time.

Ganley had a chance to have the truth judged today, and decided against it, at the last minute.

cactus flower wrote:

All right, carry on all night both of you by all means. So long as you are enjoying yourselves.

having a blast. Goodnight cactus flower

Anticoalition wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

cactus flower wrote:

Not addressed to anyone in particular, but this thread is at great risk of circular argument. I seem to recall a mod request that all statements be backed up with links. It seems to me that the facts of the case have been fully presented more than once and there is only so much to be had out of differing interpretations of the facts.

Time to head to the Sibin?

There are links in my reply. The case has been adjourned for two weeks. Anticoalition is claiming that the issue has been settled when it has not and also that there is no case, when the link I have provided states that there is a case. There is no interpertation needed, the case is adjourned for 2 weeks. It's quite clear and quite simple.

Hi Cactus.

Here is a link that pretty well sums up what happened today. Ganley and Village Magazine settle dispute

The dispute is over. It is settled.

It is neither over nor settled, the case has been adjourned for two weeks.

Declan Ganley says we are all ambassadors of Christ.