Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:16 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
So workers rights don't apply as they can getin on the ground floor ...
Can you please reference employment law in relation to internships and also where it is being breached?
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:18 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
like what?
Like, I don't know, sacking you?...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:21 am
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:22 am
cookiemonster wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
So workers rights don't apply as they can getin on the ground floor ...
Can you please reference employment law in relation to internships and also where it is being breached?
You better write to the Irish Daily Star and bring it up with the journalist Cookie. I just commend their fine sense of injustice that would campaign for the children of the ruling class on the basis taht their workers rights were being violated. that is if we are to believe Toxic and these are indeed the children of the rich.
Cookie give us a breakdown of the type of interns you have recruited so far?
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:22 am
I can confirm, from personal experience, that 700 euro is a decent rate for an internship. There are lots of companies in Ireland that recruit and pay nothing at all for internships.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:25 am
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:27 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
So workers rights don't apply as they can getin on the ground floor ...
Can you please reference employment law in relation to internships and also where it is being breached?
You better write to the Irish Daily Star and bring it up with the journalist Cookie. I just commend their fine sense of injustice that would campaign for the children of the ruling class on the basis taht their workers rights were being violated. that is if we are to believe Toxic and these are indeed the children of the rich.
Cookie give us a breakdown of the type of interns you have recruited so far?
I commend your ability to claim I said something I didn't. You should be a journalist...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:29 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
You can't exactly be a member of the oppressed masses yourself when you use words like 'nomenclature'...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:30 am
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
So workers rights don't apply as they can getin on the ground floor ...
Can you please reference employment law in relation to internships and also where it is being breached?
You better write to the Irish Daily Star and bring it up with the journalist Cookie. I just commend their fine sense of injustice that would campaign for the children of the ruling class on the basis taht their workers rights were being violated. that is if we are to believe Toxic and these are indeed the children of the rich.
Cookie give us a breakdown of the type of interns you have recruited so far?
I commend your ability to claim I said something I didn't. You should be a journalist...
Frightened Albanian appears to have comprehension difficulties.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:30 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
This is ridiculous. Lots of well respected organisations offer internships. Payment ranges from nothing at all to fairly minimal expenses. Graduates are glad of the opportunity and it looks good on a cv, there is nothing illegal or unethical about it.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:46 am
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
You can't exactly be a member of the oppressed masses yourself when you use words like 'nomenclature'...
So the masses are uneducated too? Wow!
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:46 am
cookiemonster wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
So workers rights don't apply as they can getin on the ground floor ...
Can you please reference employment law in relation to internships and also where it is being breached?
You better write to the Irish Daily Star and bring it up with the journalist Cookie. I just commend their fine sense of injustice that would campaign for the children of the ruling class on the basis taht their workers rights were being violated. that is if we are to believe Toxic and these are indeed the children of the rich.
Cookie give us a breakdown of the type of interns you have recruited so far?
I commend your ability to claim I said something I didn't. You should be a journalist...
Frightened Albanian appears to have comprehension difficulties.
Cookie give us a breakdown of the type of interns you have recruited so far?
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:57 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
You can't exactly be a member of the oppressed masses yourself when you use words like 'nomenclature'...
So the masses are uneducated too? Wow!
Well, I'm from a working class background, and in fact knew poverty growing up for periods of time, but I managed to get through university in one piece and all. I never knew, going to school on a pretty rough English council estate as I did, anyone use the term 'nomenclature'. I doubt, if you went to the school I did, you'd have survived long if you did...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:34 am
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
You can't exactly be a member of the oppressed masses yourself when you use words like 'nomenclature'...
So the masses are uneducated too? Wow!
Well, I'm from a working class background, and in fact knew poverty growing up for periods of time, but I managed to get through university in one piece and all. I never knew, going to school on a pretty rough English council estate as I did, anyone use the term 'nomenclature'. I doubt, if you went to the school I did, you'd have survived long if you did...
You are wildly speculating . Back on topic.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:41 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
johnfás wrote:
FA, you are clutching at straws here. There is no need to pay interns anything, in fact many interns are volunteers. These people are being paid a stipend to support them whilst interning as volunteers. There is nothing illegal there. Sorry to disappoint.
Well I have found the info interesting especially Toxics leftish view of socio-economic based nomenclature as well as the admission that only the children of the elites work for Libertas as interns.
You can't exactly be a member of the oppressed masses yourself when you use words like 'nomenclature'...
So the masses are uneducated too? Wow!
Well, I'm from a working class background, and in fact knew poverty growing up for periods of time, but I managed to get through university in one piece and all. I never knew, going to school on a pretty rough English council estate as I did, anyone use the term 'nomenclature'. I doubt, if you went to the school I did, you'd have survived long if you did...
You are wildly speculating . Back on topic.
Nomenclature.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:36 am
Toxic you make me sad, so much rhetoric so little to back it up. This idea that workers can not speak english well is ridiculous man.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:43 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
Toxic you make me sad, so much rhetoric so little to back it up. This idea that workers can not speak english well is ridiculous man.
Don't cry for me, Mr. Albanian...
This is your way of arguing, to make out people say things they didn't? Don't do that, I don't want to think badly of you when I see your nomenclature...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:56 am
toxic avenger wrote:
Frightened Albanian wrote:
Toxic you make me sad, so much rhetoric so little to back it up. This idea that workers can not speak english well is ridiculous man.
Don't cry for me, Mr. Albanian...
This is your way of arguing, to make out people say things they didn't? Don't do that, I don't want to think badly of you when I see your nomenclature...
I think you dug your own hole there.
what about the other party wanting to run in all countries for Europe the "New Europeans"?
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:58 am
Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:54 am
Frightened Albanian wrote:
I think you dug your own hole there.
Nomenclature.
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what about the other party wanting to run in all countries for Europe the "New Europeans"?
Just as wrong-headed as Libertas, they actually believe the beast can be tamed. Rookie mistake...
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:20 am
toxic fishing personal info me thinks
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:51 pm
That video of Ganleys interns is weird. They seem very unproductive, just an empty office filled with tables and chairs with flags at one end. I see Ganley learned his lesson after being caught with only a huge American flag in his personnel office, now he has lots of different flags, cant say hes that stupid.
Most intelligent people can that his is a campaign to undermine the EU for other unseen forces. But it always amazes me that people like him, Mary Lou McDonald, Patricia mc Kenna etc are anti-Europeans but all want to be at the heart of the Europe themselves personally. A bit like the IRA in the 1970's whose members claimed the British dole. Happy to take the money from a Government they didn't believe was legitimate.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:24 pm
Art wrote:
That video of Ganleys interns is weird. They seem very unproductive, just an empty office filled with tables and chairs with flags at one end.
And computers and phones and people... you know, save for the lack of a few filing cabinets (and the addition of flags) it looks a lot like my own office. What a thoroughly weird statement to make. It's not on par with the slave interns rubbish but it's up there.
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A bit like the IRA in the 1970's whose members claimed the British dole. Happy to take the money from a Government they didn't believe was legitimate.
*DING DING*
First reference to Libertas and the IRA, well done. I'm just waiting for Ceauşescu for a full house.
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:46 pm
I don't know where you work Cookie, but thats the barest office I've ever seen. Your right there are phones and computers there but still it looks strange to me. Our company is trying to introduce a paperless office for years but it still looks like chaos. The accountants office beside us is like an Indian government filing office. I am just making the observation that they don't seem to be doing much work by the looks of things.
Same with the IRA comment, I don't mean that Ganley has anything to do with the IRA, but the point is (and put the IRA out of your mind this time) that its strange that people who try to undermine the EU are attracted to it and love being at the heart of it.
You seem to be a bit prickly this morning so just for the laugh , and don't get all aggressive its a bit of fun, heres some common points between the IRA and Ganley:
1. Both have unexplained funding (possibly from American friends in both cases) 2. Both have a relationship with Sinn Fein for political purposes 3. Both are unelected, undemocratic and claim to speak for the plain people of Ireland 4. Both have an obsession with militarily products and personnel 5. Both are nationalistic 6. Both have harmed this Country's future
Any others?
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Subject: Re: Libertas a pan European Project : Read OP Intro Carefully - Mod Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:07 pm
Art wrote:
I don't know where you work Cookie, but thats the barest office I've ever seen. Your right there are phones and computers there but still it looks strange to me. Our company is trying to introduce a paperless office for years but it still looks like chaos. The accountants office beside us is like an Indian government filing office. I am just making the observation that they don't seem to be doing much work by the looks of things.
It looks like it's an open desk area, they are newly started interns, what the hell do you expect? Seriously.
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Same with the IRA comment, I don't mean that Ganley has anything to do with the IRA, but the point is (and put the IRA out of your mind this time) that its strange that people who try to undermine the EU are attracted to it and love being at the heart of it.
That' a load of bull. If you're talking of Eurosceptics I'll take UKIP, being the most obvious example, of course they are going to get involved and do so so their voice will be heard, so they have some influence on the course of events which the EU takes that influence our lives. Take Daniel Hannan, for example, who is a very well respected eurosceptic, I don't think he loves being at the hear of it at all, he often speaks of his exasperation at being in Brussels
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seem to be a bit prickly this morning so just for the laugh , and don't get all aggressive its a bit of fun, heres some common points between the IRA and Ganley:
1. Both have unexplained funding (possibly from American friends in both cases)
That's more nonsense. Libertas funding is not unexplained. It's been explained time and time again and to my knowledge nothing yet has been found to have been worng with it. Ganley has always said that Libertas was funded in line with SIPO regulations, that's never been proven otherwise.
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2. Both have a relationship with Sinn Fein for political purposes
They share one platform, opposition to Lisbon and I suspect they do so for very different reasons.
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3. Both are unelected, undemocratic and claim to speak for the plain people of Ireland
Unlike the IRA, Libertas is standing candidates for election.
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4. Both have an obsession with militarily products and personnel
You're talking about Ganley, not Libertas. Currently ONE member of Libertas staff is a former member of the military.
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5. Both are nationalistic
You what? You know Libertas advocates a democratically elected president of Europe?
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6. Both have harmed this Country's future
Yeah, yeah, yeah "death wish" etc...
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