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PostSubject: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:47 pm

The Presidential and Royal Christmas messages tend to surreal blandness, so Channel 4 have an "alternative Christmas message" every year.

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is to deliver Channel 4's alternative Christmas speech to Britain this year, it was reported.

Ahmadinejad will deliver his speech at 7.15pm London time and will be telling British viewers that "Jesus the Son of Mary is the standard-bearer of justice, of love for our fellow human beings, of the fight against tyranny, discrimination, and injustice," Iran's Press TV quoted the preliminary text of the message.

He also says that problems in society are rooted in the rejection of the message of the prophets of God, including Jesus.

Ahmadinejad's speech, in Farsi with English subtitles, will be the channel's 16th alternative Christmas message.

Channel 4's first alternative message in 1993 was delivered by gay icon Quentin Crisp. Others to have given the broadcast include French actress Brigitte Bardot, while last year's message was given by Maj Andrew Stockton, a British soldier who lost an arm fighting in Afghanistan

Please post your personal "Alternative Christmas Messages" here.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:42 pm

Happy Easter from all at the Alzeimers Association and best wishes for 1982!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:48 pm

I always enjoy the Queen's Speech I must say. Will be fun to watch Ahmadinejad, glad to see C4 are keeping up their history of putting interesting people on, even if they often don't quite live up to expectation.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:41 pm

As they say in OOlster - Scoots.........

I only listen to our ain yins.........

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:45 pm

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
As they say in OOlster - Scoots.........

I only listen to our ain yins.........

And what are they saying?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:50 pm

cactus flower wrote:
SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
As they say in OOlster - Scoots.........

I only listen to our ain yins.........

And what are they saying?

Death to all christians.......or.......the best of wishes at a time of the year which is special to our non-muslim friends....we'll have to wait and see.....7.15pm.....
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:01 pm

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
cactus flower wrote:
SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
As they say in OOlster - Scoots.........

I only listen to our ain yins.........

And what are they saying?

Death to all christians.......or.......the best of wishes at a time of the year which is special to our non-muslim friends....we'll have to wait and see.....7.15pm.....

http://books.google.ie/books?id=TH6CvHMTu4UC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=Pan+arab+movement&source=web&ots=o080kMy1L7&sig=DbBgcf6zNcG-RZcxsZp_RdGsCH4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA100,M1

How did we get from the pan-arabism and radicalism of the 60s to "radical islam"?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:07 pm

I blame Charlie Bird......but did any body read about Leo.......

He was there today so I went down and said hello and gave him a box of Chocolates and wished him a Happy Christmas. Very Happy

Isn't ironic in a way that Alannis Morrisette isn't that he's from Prosperous

Up ye boy ye Leo
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:37 pm

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
I blame Charlie Bird......but did any body read about Leo.......

He was there today so I went down and said hello and gave him a box of Chocolates and wished him a Happy Christmas. Very Happy

Isn't ironic in a way that Alannis Morrisette isn't that he's from Prosperous

Up ye boy ye Leo
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Pensioner plans Christmas Day protest at Dáil
In this section »
Cawley funeral told of family's 'appalling' lossChurch's reputation set back years by CloyneWilson approves £267m hospital for Enniskillen'Risky' diet pills seized, says medicines boardBishop glad excavated remains to be reinterredSharp fall in number of overseas visitorsKITTY HOLLANDA CO KILDARE pensioner plans to spend Christmas Day standing outside Leinster House, protesting at "the unemployment situation."

Leo Armstrong (68), who lives in Prosperous, says he will be at the Dáil from 9am until 6pm tomorrow.

"I feel very strongly about how inept the Government has been. . . about the economy and rising unemployment. The English government dealt with things much faster and even they were too slow, but our Government has been far too slow."

The Government should not have "even contemplated" taking a six-week break at this time, he continued.

"I know the country is in half-speed mode at this time but it's the perception that the Government has no urgency about all this that annoys me."

Mr Armstrong had been active in politics all his life, he said, having been involved in Fine Gael and later as a member of the Green Party.

"I have been annoyed with this Government for a long time now, particularly since their total mishandling of the Lisbon Treaty. And then with the Budget, to see Brian Lenihan say he was not going to make the vulnerable suffer and yet it was the poor and the very old who had to . . . march in October, it's not tolerable.

"The Government in general has lost the confidence of the people . . . I'd say the Green Ministers are very industrious. The rest should pack their bags."

He said those in power should draw on those "with real ability, who foresaw what was coming down the road" to draw up a strategy to "get the country back on its feet".

He suggested people such as Fine Gael finance spokesman Richard Bruton, commentator Eddie Hobbs and Labour leader Eamon Gilmore should be among them.

Tomorrow he would not do anything more than stand outside Leinster House for the day.

"People may say I'm a looney but really it's a tiny gesture that I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of people who are unemployed will not think is looney. I'm sure they will appreciate it."

I'm too far away to drop over to him. Good man though.

Where he needs to think twice is about Eddie- last year's international property scheme was one of the worst pieces of nonsense going.
And come to that, Richard B, with his portfolio of Irish bank shares. Leo would do better to rely on himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:45 pm

The chocolates were called "Bendicks". My aunt had just gave them to me and they were 6 months out of date, Embarassed

Still he use to be a blueshirt and so was my aunt years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:54 pm

Bendicks Mint Collection - Yummy! My favourite box of chocolates.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:58 pm

johnfás wrote:
Bendicks Mint Collection - Yummy! My favourite box of chocolates.

Are yis all into six month out-of-date chocolate? Is it pining for rationing durimg the blitz that yis are ?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:05 pm

Not six months out of date... but in date they are yummy. Disappointingly we don't seem to have got any this Christmas but there are like 5 boxes of Thorntons under the side board... why is it that patients all give their doctors Thornton's Chocolates?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:13 pm

My man in Iran is on.....
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:26 pm

Leo Armstrong is Kate P's man from the PATS party, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:28 pm

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Leo Armstrong is Kate P's man from the PATS party, I think.

Do tell....
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:20 am

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:34 am

floatingingalway wrote:
Happy Easter from all at the Alzeimers Association and best wishes for 1982!

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:10 am

Nice message from the Iranian President.

The suggestions as to how our Lord might have viewed and acted on international relations surprised me. I don't remmeber reading of our Lord ever expressing any views on international affairs let alone the oppression of the Jews by the Romans.

It was great to hear Ahmed Inejad speak the words of Christian love and peace. If he is speaking them then the Iranian people are thinking them. They are just like us so.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:13 am

It's all about Prophets *cough*
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:18 am

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
It's all about Prophets *cough*

I know. It seems Islam isn't another subset of protestantism after all!

He seemed to be following on from his address to Harvard where he called for unity amongst the monotheistic peoples.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:31 am

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/1225/breaking10.html

It would appear that some people do not want us to hear alternative messages.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Christmas Messages -Ahmadinejad and Others   Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:51 am

Found it hard to keep focused on what he was saying: I'll give it a read if I can find it on the net. Easier for Moslems to address Christians than the other way around, given that they see JC as a holy prophet, and Christians historically don't have anything too good to say about Mohammed.

I was watching a tv documentary on the 6 day war recently and all that footage of optimistic, modern looking arab people, the women in the streets with their hair uncovered in Eygypt and Syria, back in the 1960s, was a bit of a jolt. The people who stoked up a medieval and very reactionary form of Islam - imo in the main the US government - have a lot to answer for.
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