British MEPs, UKIP to the fore, appeared in green geansaí with "Respect the Irish vote" emblazoned on them. They also held banners with the same message.

Crowley giving out about them using the tricolour as a table cloth to put their drinks on while celebrating the result last Friday in Brussels.

Avril Doyle sounding like she's giving the oration at Béal na mBláth.

Some cricus.

Where's Avril Doyle ?

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:

British MEPs, UKIP to the fore, appeared in green geansaí with "Respect the Irish vote" emblazoned on them. They also held banners with the same message.

Crowley giving out about them using the tricolour as a table cloth to put their drinks on while celebrating the result last Friday in Brussels.

Avril Doyle sounding like she's giving the oration at Béal na mBláth.

Some circus.

What are you watching SeathrúnCeitinn? Or are you at some weird party somewhere?

Auditor #9 wrote:

Where's Avril Doyle ?

It was on the One O'Clock news. I'll put the link up when it's up on rte site.

cactus flower wrote:

SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:

British MEPs, UKIP to the fore, appeared in green geansaí with "Respect the Irish vote" emblazoned on them. They also held banners with the same message.

Crowley giving out about them using the tricolour as a table cloth to put their drinks on while celebrating the result last Friday in Brussels.

Avril Doyle sounding like she's giving the oration at Béal na mBláth.

Some circus.

What are you watching SeathrúnCeitinn? Or are you at some weird party somewhere?

She was shoutin 'Jailbird' at a ukip mep. I thought there was gonna be a fall-to. Great stuff.

Report from one o'clock news available here

Thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing Avril and Brian laying about them with their shillelaghs.

Time we drove off these sad old Tories back to Blighty.

cactus flower wrote:

Thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing Avril and Brian laying about them with their shillelaghs.

Time we drove off these sad old Tories back to Blighty.

We're all Tories now here with the No vote. This was always going to be part of the small print of a No.

It was instructive about the Libertas spokeswoman on Q&A citing a
right wing Austrian newspaper for "congratulating" Ireland on voting
the "right way", or for CookieMonster to boast in his sig on P.ie that
"we broke Europe". A load of shamroguery from the deeply
unpleasant
UK far right is what we have exchanged goodwill from the people who
have benefited us in a real and practical way over the last thirty five
years in Europe for. Enjoy the Paddywhackery, we've earned it.

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Avril Doyle Q.E.D.

"respect the Irish vote" they said, what is there to object to there?? What is more telling is "our" M.E.P.'s slaging them instead of standing up for us. Strange times indeed.

Get a slate of MEPs allied to UKIP and Kathy Sinnott's Independence and
Democracy right wing group and Sinn Fein's Nordic Green Left group
elected on the back of the referendum result in a year's time, then you
will have MEPs who will be happy to represent your position.
Nothing strange about that.

It seems Kathy Sinott made a big communication mistake by not ensuring the left-wing eurosceptic MEPs wore green too.

It allows the press to display the No as extreme-right, for example in this photo from today's Times:



with comment: "Munster MEP Kathy Sinott is joined in protest in Brussels yesterday by Eurosceptic MEPs, clockwise from top left: Gerald Batten, Geoffrey Bloom, Mike Natrass, Geoffrey Titford (all members of the UK Independence Party), and Bas Belder of Hollands ChristenUnie-SGP."

The equivalent article of the Independent doesn't show any image but is really stomping on the opportunity.

arnaudherve wrote:

It seems Kathy Sinott made a big communication mistake by not ensuring the left-wing eurosceptic MEPs wore green too.

It allows the press to display the No as extreme-right, for example in this photo from today's Times:



with comment: "Munster MEP Kathy Sinott is joined in protest in Brussels yesterday by Eurosceptic MEPs, clockwise from top left: Gerald Batten, Geoffrey Bloom, Mike Natrass, Geoffrey Titford (all members of the UK Independence Party), and Bas Belder of Hollands ChristenUnie-SGP."

The equivalent article of the Independent doesn't show image but is really stomping on the opportunity.

Not a mistake I think as Kathy Sinnott is a right winger.

Does this UKIP deserve the bit of vitriol it's getting from the redneck airwaves this morning ? What are they anyway - Nazis ?

eamo wrote:

"respect the Irish vote" they said, what is there to object to there?? What is more telling is "our" M.E.P.'s slaging them instead of standing up for us. Strange times indeed.

There is nothing strange about slandering the Irish No voters in every way under the sun, in order to obscure the meaning of the vote. The gravy train is being shaken, and the gravy is slopping about everywhere. The bottom line is that people are not satisfied to hand over powers to an undemocratic body with a militarising agenda and that the political and bureaucratic caste in the EU want to talk about anything but that.

All the white noise of the last few days is getting patchy and we hear today that Merkel says that Lisbon can not go ahead without Ireland and also from France that tax harmonisation is being dropped off the agenda.

The problem of the noisy far right is to be expected and I wrote about it in posts before the Referendum. Of course most No voters don't want anything to do with them. The pretence is that in some way the EU is the centre. Sarkozy is beating a trail back to NATO and a miitary build up. It would not be easy to sell that as a left wing agenda. The problem I see is that there is not a voice coming from the left, at least in an organised form, to push forward a democratic european alternative.

In my view this needs to happen urgently.

Ronald Binge wrote:

Get a slate of MEPs allied to UKIP and Kathy Sinnott's Independence and
Democracy right wing group and Sinn Fein's Nordic Green Left group
elected on the back of the referendum result in a year's time, then you
will have MEPs who will be happy to represent your position.
Nothing strange about that.

That in response to my post?? If it is, don't you think it strange to see Irish MEP's lambasting foreign MEP's for wearing t-shirts that say "respect the Irish vote"?? Don't you think it strange that "our" T.D.s with the exception of S.F. were so out of touch with the people who they are supposed to represent??
Seems dam strange to me Ronald.

Eamo how much do you think that this No vote represents disenchantment that the people have with politicians and they feel they are just out of touch ?

For what its worth my opinion is that it is almost entirely a result of out of touch politicians. They seem to be up in the clouds (and that's being polite)
Brian Cowen could have done much to get it passed by simple answering "yes" when asked about legislation supporting workers rights, but insted he acted the cute hoor and said "to be dealt with as part of the national agreement negotiations. The powers that be have pissed off by pissing down on just about every sector of society, the family farmers, the fishermen, and no doubt the fisherwomen as well, married people, remember good time Charleys tax individualisation, they were so busy apeing most of what is bad in the U.S.A. that they have all but destroyed what was good in Ireland. And before some ronald says "yea like mass unemployment" no, more like a sense of community, a sense of solidarity, flats ,or, excuse me, "apartments" designed with children in mind, dammit flats designed with people in mind, and yes I could go on and on and..... aaah nothing like a good rant. I said Rant not wan... o never mind

Are the Spanish politicians a bit more electorate-friendly so ? Our lads are some shower though - Dermot Ahern today with the press conference .. I definitely feel that this is the case that the two fingers went to FF and FG and probably Labour and the Greens too. Maybe they behaved too much like the 'Res' in 'Respublicans' and they got their heads chopped off, kinda.

I wonder will they sweet talk the shit out of everyone for the next one ? Micheál Martin started it the very next day by acknowledging that disconnect we're talking about here.

It's true for cactus, there's no unified Left voice ... Could be Sinn Fein's hour...

eamo wrote:

Ronald Binge wrote:

Get a slate of MEPs allied to UKIP and Kathy Sinnott's Independence and
Democracy right wing group and Sinn Fein's Nordic Green Left group
elected on the back of the referendum result in a year's time, then you
will have MEPs who will be happy to represent your position.
Nothing strange about that.

That
in response to my post?? If it is, don't you think it strange to see
Irish MEP's lambasting foreign MEP's for wearing t-shirts that say
"respect the Irish vote"?? Don't you think it strange that "our" T.D.s
with the exception of S.F. were so out of touch with the people who
they are supposed to represent??
Seems dam strange to me Ronald.

It is strange. Wearing silly T Shirts, Paddy hats and saying "Top
of the morning to ye" isn't engaging in democracy, it's
playacting.

Two of the MEPs are euroskeptics and are well able to articulate for
themselves. I'd be more surprised if FF, FG and Lab turned euroskeptic
in the morning, referendum result or not. If the people do not
want pro European parties to represent them they are free to replace
them at the next elections.