Indymedia - Philosophies

I also hope you do not think that there is any anti-Indymedia agenda here on this site. I am not aware of one. You would want to visit P.ie if you want to see that. There may be one or two individual comments, but until the present fracas, nothing untoward.

Articles in question can be found via Google.

Here's one of this lady's first ever posts on Indy from 2004 (well before my time). Link (This link isn't dragging my browser to the exact comment - scroll to near the bottom of the page and see the post with the timestamp Fri Apr 23, 2004 21:33)

I see nothing that is hard to follow here and consider this input very valuable to the thread in which it apears, I consider it to be one of the saving graces in the whole thread. As for describing whether it's above par or not (with regard to how well its written), who cares, read the rest to make comparisons.

I must say, it is a fascinating thread because you have in it badman (!) a psychiatrist (what would a psychologist make of that name) in discourse with people who have a critique of psychiatry. There are a lot of pretty abusive and meaningless comments thrown in from people who would have done better to try to follow the discussion.

If, and I mean if, the same thing was posted many times without anyone referencing any sources, there is a limit to its value. Hard to see the harm, either.

A recent study found that Prozac, that our health services has spent millions on, in most cases prescribed does not work any better than a placebo.

So who was daft?


Link to Guardian Report

Zhou_Enlai wrote:

Copernicus had to to deal with the reality of the Church even though his theory of the elliptical orbit of the planets is generally considered to be superior in all respects.

Pedantic correction: Copernicus was the heliocentric man. Kepler was the elliptical orbit man.

I'd humbly suggest that badman has no license to prescribe medication.

In order to be passed as fit medication, medictions must fare marginally better than the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the baseline.

Hermes wrote:

I'd humbly suggest that badman has no license to prescribe medication.

In order to be passed as fit medication, medictions must fare marginally better than the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the baseline.

Hermes: I read the small print on some very expensive antibiotics last year. It said that they were 5% more effective than a placebo, and if I felt suicidal after taking them I should contact my physician.

That is not to say I would not under any circumstances take antibiotics. If I had had life-threatening pneumonia I would have swallowed the bottle and taken my chances with the depressive side effects.

Same here. Things'd need to be pretty dire though before I took em.

cactus flower wrote:

Hermes wrote:

I'd humbly suggest that badman has no license to prescribe medication.

In order to be passed as fit medication, medictions must fare marginally better than the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the baseline.

Hermes: I read the small print on some very expensive antibiotics last year. It said that they were 5% more effective than a placebo, and if I felt suicidal after taking them I should contact my physician.

That is not to say I would not under any circumstances take antibiotics. If I had had life-threatening pneumonia I would have swallowed the bottle and taken my chances with the depressive side effects.

Antibiotics? That's unusual...

ibis wrote:

cactus flower wrote:

Hermes wrote:

I'd humbly suggest that badman has no license to prescribe medication.

In order to be passed as fit medication, medictions must fare marginally better than the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the baseline.

Hermes: I read the small print on some very expensive antibiotics last year. It said that they were 5% more effective than a placebo, and if I felt suicidal after taking them I should contact my physician.

That is not to say I would not under any circumstances take antibiotics. If I had had life-threatening pneumonia I would have swallowed the bottle and taken my chances with the depressive side effects.

Antibiotics? That's unusual...

I was shocked too.

cactus flower wrote:

ibis wrote:

cactus flower wrote:

Hermes wrote:

I'd humbly suggest that badman has no license to prescribe medication.

In order to be passed as fit medication, medictions must fare marginally better than the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the baseline.

Hermes: I read the small print on some very expensive antibiotics last year. It said that they were 5% more effective than a placebo, and if I felt suicidal after taking them I should contact my physician.

That is not to say I would not under any circumstances take antibiotics. If I had had life-threatening pneumonia I would have swallowed the bottle and taken my chances with the depressive side effects.

Antibiotics? That's unusual...

I was shocked too.

Ah - that essentially means "5% better than doing nothing", which makes sense. I was assuming it suggested a useful placebo effect, but it's a placebo only in terms of providing something to give the same regime.

I googled Michele Clarke's name and it drew up a complete list of all her Indymedia articles:

http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire?author_name=Michelle%20Clarke

Aragon wrote:

I googled Michele Clarke's name and it drew up a complete list of all her Indymedia articles:

http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire?author_name=Michelle%20Clarke

I particularly like this one: Link

A very good news piece, from last October, well above par and indeed she managed to accomplish an incredibly good deed as well.