Subject: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:09 pm
The cut worm forgives the plough
- William Blake, Proverbs of Hell
_ David Attenborough voice _ The worm is without a doubt one of the most important creatures to crawl the earth, or underneath it, if you're looking at it from the point of view of another creature who relies on food coming from the soil....
Humans are one such creature and it is possibly true to say that there would be no human beings without the work of the worm, or a lot less humans anyway and those ones who didn't like fish would be living a charmed existence.
I found this lovely little website with nice information about the worm which I'd like to share. Don't know if all the info is accurate but I'll take their word for it. All quotes from http://www.jetcompost.com/burrow/primer.htm All pitchers got surreptitiously from different parts of the internet.
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Introduction Vermes is Latin for worms and Vermicompsting is essentially composting with worms.
In nature all organic matter eventually decomposes. In Vermicompsting you speed up the process of decomposition and get a richer end product called "worm castings." Vermicompsting has the added advantage of allowing you to create compost all year; indoors during the winter and outdoors during the summer.
The consumption of organic wastes by earthworms is an ecologically safe method to natually convert many of our organic wastes into an extremely environmentally beneficial product.
Two types of earthworms have consistently been domesticated for commerical use due to their relative insinsitivity to environmental changes. a) The Red Wiggler", or manure worm [Eisensia Foetida]. b) The Red Worm, another manure worm [Lumbricus Rebellus].
So, not only do we rely on worms in our gardens but they can also be housed in your apartment in town where according to Treehugger they will eat your vegetable peelings and then excrete compost stuff afterwards leaving you with a rich fertile soil to grow more veg which you can then eat yourself, feeding more clippings to the worms and so on and on.
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Three basic conditions control the size of a worm population:
1. availability of food 2. space requirements 3. fouling of their environment
When food and waste is regularly fed to worms in a limited space, the worms and associated organisms break down this waste. They use what they can and excrete the rest. As the worms reproduce, the voracious young worms compete with their parents and all the other worms in the culture for the limited food available. Additionally, all the worms excrete casting, which has been shown to be toxic to members of their own species.
As time goes on, more worms compete for the limited food, and more and more of the bedding becomes converted to castings. The density of the worms may exceed that favourable for cocoon production, and reproduction slows down. The controls you exert over your worm population will affect this whole process. You may choose to feed an ever increasing population, in which case, you will need to provide them with more space and fresh bedding.
No one knows for sure the life span of a worm. Some authorities believe that, under ideal conditions, worms may live as long as ten years.
So, the worm will not tolerate eating its own excrement while down in Ennis and elsewhere they regularly find e-coli from human sources in their water supply - lovely
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Reproduction
A worm's reproductive system is quite complex. Worms are hermaphrodic -- that is, each worm is both male and female and each can produce eggs and fertilize the eggs produced by another worm. Under perfect conditions a mature breeder will produce a cocoon every 7 to 10 days. During mating, any two adult worms can join together to fertilize each other's eggs. Then a mucous tube secreted by the clitellum (the band 1/4 of the way down the worm's body) slips over its head into the soil as an egg case or cocoon.
These cocoons are about the size of a match head and change colour as the baby worms develop, starting out as pale yellow and when the hatchlings are ready to emerge, cocoons are a reddish-brown. It is possible by observing with a good lens to not only see a baby worm, but to see the pumping of its bright red blood vessel. The blood of a worm is amazingly similar to ours, having the same function of carrying oxygen, and having iron-rich hemoglobin at its base.
It takes about three weeks development in the cocoon for one to several baby worms to hatch. These newly emerged worms look just like the grown-ups, only lighter in colour and much smaller. They will mature to breeding age in approximately 60 to 90 days.
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Biology
The Red Wiggler ingests waste at the front, through a soft mouth witha lip that can seize or grasp whatever the worm is trying to eat. The throat, or "phraynx"can be pushed forward to help pull matter in. They have no teeth so they coat their food with saliva, which makes it softer and easier to digest.
After the food is swallowed, it passes through the esophagus to the crop and then to the gizzard, where small stones grind it up. The food is passed into the intestine, ehich is almost as long as the worm itself. At the end of the intestine is the anus, for passing out the castings.
Worms have a brain and five hearts. They have neither eyes nor ears but are extremely aware of vibrations such as thumps or banging on the composter. They have a well founded hereditary aversion to bright lights. Ultraviolet rays from the sun are very harmful to earthworms. One hour's exposure to strong sunlight causes partial-to-complete paralysis and several hours are fatal. A worm breathes when oxygen from the air or water passes through its moist skin into the blood capillaries. If the body covering dries up, the worm suffocates.
I always make sure, when I plant up pots and the like, to add an earthworm or two to them (though they usually find their own way to them). You can, of course, buy earthworms to add to your soil, I think there's a place down at Bandon that does it...
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:52 pm
I always make sure, when I plant up pots and the like, to add an earthworm or two to them (though they usually find their own way to them). You can, of course, buy earthworms to add to your soil, I think there's a place down at Bandon that does it...
Could I put my apple cores into the flower pot for the worms to eat ?
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:58 pm
My chickens really, really like earthworms
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:00 pm
I imagine so, I usually leave them for the birds. I imagine it might be an idea to keep them out of direct contact with the plant though, just in case decomposition does something to it. I throw old teabags on to the acid-loving plants' pots, seems to do no harm, it's said they like it and that the worms like it too...
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:06 pm
Do worms like tea ?
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:09 pm
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Do worms like tea ?
They seem to like the teabags, so I heard...
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:21 pm
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:30 am
Not sure if it's a worm casting, but it caught my eye on the beach in Ballinskelligs in the autumn. I like the movement of it all.
My compost bin is full of worms - and slugs, and earwiggy things.
That's a useful tip about the teabags, toxic. Lidl have offers on lime-hating plants this week, according the brochure that came with half the papers today - Camelias and Rhododendrons at least...
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:26 am
Tea and coffee gourds are sl;ightly acidic but worms should like them. The trick to regulaing the ph level is to add crushed eggshells which are an alkaline and should do the trick.
I only got into worm-farming last june or july and have to say I found it fascinating. My herd was one of the casulties of the resent extreme weather here that you won't read about in the newspapers. Its annoying having to start again and I'm not sure if we'll be staying around so I might not bother til I get back to Ireland.
I was a member of this online group where you could register your farm and record how much waste it consumes. There was a map locator which was pretty neat.
Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:30 am
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Tea and coffee gourds are sl;ightly acidic but worms should like them. The trick to regulaing the ph level is to add crushed eggshells which are an alkaline and should do the trick.
I only got into worm-farming last june or july and have to say I found it fascinating. My herd was one of the casulties of the resent extreme weather here that you won't read about in the newspapers. Its annoying having to start again and I'm not sure if we'll be staying around so I might not bother til I get back to Ireland.
I was a member of this online group where you could register your farm and record how much waste it consumes. There was a map locator which was pretty neat.
That's the best thing I've seen in a long time shutuplaura. I just have a big old compost heap full of worms. Sorry about your lost worms btw.
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:34 am
shutuplaura wrote:
Tea and coffee gourds are sl;ightly acidic but worms should like them. The trick to regulaing the ph level is to add crushed eggshells which are an alkaline and should do the trick.
I only got into worm-farming last june or july and have to say I found it fascinating. My herd was one of the casulties of the resent extreme weather here that you won't read about in the newspapers. Its annoying having to start again and I'm not sure if we'll be staying around so I might not bother til I get back to Ireland.
I was a member of this online group where you could register your farm and record how much waste it consumes. There was a map locator which was pretty neat.
So the tea and coffee might give them heartburn which would be bad because they have 5 hearts, so to look after them you give them some alka-seltzer or Rennies as well is it ?
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:46 am
I never considered it to be honest Perhaps that was my mistake....
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:20 am
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shutuplaura wrote:
Tea and coffee gourds are sl;ightly acidic but worms should like them. The trick to regulaing the ph level is to add crushed eggshells which are an alkaline and should do the trick.
I only got into worm-farming last june or july and have to say I found it fascinating. My herd was one of the casulties of the resent extreme weather here that you won't read about in the newspapers. Its annoying having to start again and I'm not sure if we'll be staying around so I might not bother til I get back to Ireland.
I was a member of this online group where you could register your farm and record how much waste it consumes. There was a map locator which was pretty neat.
So the tea and coffee might give them heartburn which would be bad because they have 5 hearts, so to look after them you give them some alka-seltzer or Rennies as well is it ?
Did you have a look at the people in Belfast with their wormeries? Giant worm farms! (Giant farms of worms, not farms of giant worms.) Our little wormery is a little slow getting started, but I probably just expected it all to turn into compost overnight. The population is definitely growing, but it's not quite composting in fast-forward. (We had a few fatalities when worms were washed into the base by the heavy rain a while back and couldn't swim up again. Since then, we moved it into the outhouse. Worms can't swim, apparently, and will come to the surface of the ground if they hear rain falling. That's why birds sometimes run along the ground, to trick the worms into thinking it's raining.
The chickens haven't yet found the worms, though my nephew firmly believes the worms are there as chicken food, and he keeps trying to feed the wormies to the chucks.
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:01 am
Yeah it took a few months before I got on to the second level of my store bought worm farm. I used this coconut fibre stuff as the food in the beginning. It came especially for the purpose in a cube that I had to soak. I also started with about 1000 worms. I wouldn't be relying on it for compost becasue it will take ages to get enough for a window box.
My best advice would be to blend the waste you are giving them - they actually feed on the mould that grows on the waste rather than the scraps themselves I believe so the smaller the pieces you put in, the better. It will turn to mold very quickly. I can't give much advice - my first farm failed. I reckon it was the extreme heat we had here for a few days but it could have been anythign - its a such a delicate eco-system. For instance, if you put banana skins in make sure they are organic or scrub them because the skin will have a lot of perstacide on it.
What type of container are you all using by the way. I know its popular to make your own - I've even heard of people using the horizontal method which is basically a trench in the ground. I went for a comercial option.
Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:28 am
I haven't got a proper wormery, just two plastic cone compost bins and two heaps - one of leaf mould and the other of woodier stuff. I don't know what is going on in the cones in terms of life. The leaf mould heap is full of worms. I've always liked worms and could never pass an earthworm that has been washed to the surface/dropped by a bird without popping them on some earth in a safe place.
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:46 pm
Used to have a proper wormery longtime ago as a Teenager - went into disuse after I discovered another slimy species - women! (only kiddin,only kiddin!!)
I had it for producing lobworms for fish bait - worms are the best bait going for Salmon,Trout and damn nearly every fish.
We have 3 composters on the go at the moment - we are producing way more compost than we need (anybody want any compost - its good stuff -well matured) - but the worms that are in compost heaps are slightly different breed of earthworm ,they are smaller and stripier than your traditional earthworm - which I now collect by going on the lawn on moist wet evening and collecting them by lamplight - or ,more naughtily, if Im in a hurry - going out on the lawn with a bucket of well diluted washing up liquid and poured it over a patch of the lawn and in ten-minutes or so the blinded wormies will crawling out on top.
Cruel fecker I am
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:50 pm
Edo wrote:
Used to have a proper wormery longtime ago as a Teenager - went into disuse after I discovered another slimy species - women! (only kiddin,only kiddin!!)
I had it for producing lobworms for fish bait - worms are the best bait going for Salmon,Trout and damn nearly every fish.
We have 3 composters on the go at the moment - we are producing way more compost than we need (anybody want any compost - its good stuff -well matured) - but the worms that are in compost heaps are slightly different breed of earthworm ,they are smaller and stripier than your traditional earthworm - which I now collect by going on the lawn on moist wet evening and collecting them by lamplight - or ,more naughtily, if Im in a hurry - going out on the lawn with a bucket of well diluted washing up liquid and poured it over a patch of the lawn and in ten-minutes or so the blinded wormies will crawling out on top.
Cruel fecker I am
A watering can and jumping up and down might do it, without the Fairy Liquid
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:53 pm
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Edo wrote:
Used to have a proper wormery longtime ago as a Teenager - went into disuse after I discovered another slimy species - women! (only kiddin,only kiddin!!)
I had it for producing lobworms for fish bait - worms are the best bait going for Salmon,Trout and damn nearly every fish.
We have 3 composters on the go at the moment - we are producing way more compost than we need (anybody want any compost - its good stuff -well matured) - but the worms that are in compost heaps are slightly different breed of earthworm ,they are smaller and stripier than your traditional earthworm - which I now collect by going on the lawn on moist wet evening and collecting them by lamplight - or ,more naughtily, if Im in a hurry - going out on the lawn with a bucket of well diluted washing up liquid and poured it over a patch of the lawn and in ten-minutes or so the blinded wormies will crawling out on top.
Cruel fecker I am
A watering can and jumping up and down might do it, without the Fairy Liquid
thank you - must remember that - an evironmentally friendly method with exercise thrown in - win win (except for the worms )
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:03 pm
Worms can't swim, apparently, and will come to the surface of the ground if they hear rain falling. That's why birds sometimes run along the ground, to trick the worms into thinking it's raining.
The chickens haven't yet found the worms, though my nephew firmly believes the worms are there as chicken food, and he keeps trying to feed the wormies to the chucks.
That's some site about the worms there - wriggling with resources.
Bear is that why worms react to the vibrations then ? They think it could be water falling on their land so they panic because they can't swim and surface... ? When did you start your wormery? I'd say these things take at the minimum a season to get going.
Edo so you have a rake of compost - what's the PH composition of it do you know ? If i was to go over and pick up a bootload I'd have to know that it was a lot less acidic to balance out mine which is more of a big mound of teabags.
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:11 pm
I had a moment when I thought a wormery would be great for the garden but I heard about the smell and abandoned the idea. Is it true that they smell terrible?
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:31 am
Do we know the adverse effects of slurry on the ecosystem ?
I'm concerned that the slurry cuts off the oxygen to the worms and they then surface and all the birds whip them away in their gobs.
Slurry smells really bad - Thanks bit of Jesus worms don't have noses
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Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:28 am
Subject: Re: Worms and Vermicomposting Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:12 pm
candide wrote:
I had a moment when I thought a wormery would be great for the garden but I heard about the smell and abandoned the idea. Is it true that they smell terrible?
I haven't noticed any smell from it, though it is kept in an outhouse. I don't put any meat or dairy into it, though, which may cut down on potential odours.