cactus flower wrote:

Bloody software eh.

Not a purge, more along the lines of the health check reminders the HSE occasionally issues to the dead.

That's pretty much what the email was...

rockyracoon wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Since when has p.ie claimed to be a democracy? It's a cochranocracy and always has been.

A new phrase in Irish politics perhaps? Thanks for the larff.

We could all bitch about another site. You've got to find the place where you feel most comfortable. Tbh, I was missing what I considered the cut and thrust of debate on pie before I was welcomed on the machine nation site. However, there was very little in the way of debate on pie, in retrospection, and more on slagging off the other poster's opinions. Concenus is never an option on many sites.

On MN I find that I have to stop and think a little before I reply or retort in order to keep within the spirit or ethos of the site. In other words, I am forced to think before I type, and sterotypical answers are not sufficient.

There is a saying in Monaghan: "have manners". This simple phrase is used when anyone gets out of line. Simple but understood by all participants in Monaghan. Go against the saying and you can lose friends very quickly.

I mightn't always live up the the saying but, god love me, I try, and usually row-back my "over-enthusiasm".

I find there’s a bit too much consensus here on this site, a bit like a club with too few members, too comfortable with each other.
Not my cup of tea unfortunately.

tonys wrote:

rockyracoon wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

Since when has p.ie claimed to be a democracy? It's a cochranocracy and always has been.

A new phrase in Irish politics perhaps? Thanks for the larff.

We could all bitch about another site. You've got to find the place where you feel most comfortable. Tbh, I was missing what I considered the cut and thrust of debate on pie before I was welcomed on the machine nation site. However, there was very little in the way of debate on pie, in retrospection, and more on slagging off the other poster's opinions. Concenus is never an option on many sites.

On MN I find that I have to stop and think a little before I reply or retort in order to keep within the spirit or ethos of the site. In other words, I am forced to think before I type, and sterotypical answers are not sufficient.

There is a saying in Monaghan: "have manners". This simple phrase is used when anyone gets out of line. Simple but understood by all participants in Monaghan. Go against the saying and you can lose friends very quickly.

I mightn't always live up the the saying but, god love me, I try, and usually row-back my "over-enthusiasm".

I find there’s a bit too much consensus here on this site, a bit like a club with too few members, too comfortable with each other.
Not my cup of tea unfortunately.

It's a different style of forum, tonys. Here a debate or discussion can occur without resort to rancour or juvenile taunting. On other more widely used sites, there are single issue nuts (immigration, for example) or far-right wingnuts or simply headcases spouting off the most mindless stuff without fail. It really becomes very tedious. But it comes down to a question of personal taste.

Don't blame me Slim. I did my best with rancour and juvenile taunting.

Tonys is taking the last stage coach out of town before the banks open tomorrow. The Stroke pulled by FF is about to be exposed as a big bluff and it is every man for himself.

youngdan wrote:

Don't blame me Slim. I did my best with rancour and juvenile taunting.

Tonys is taking the last stage coach out of town before the banks open tomorrow. The Stroke pulled by FF is about to be exposed as a big bluff and it is every man for himself.

It seems that the rigorous analysis and convincing action undertaken by Brian & Brian has had such an effect that Angela Merkel was persuaded to do something similar. Let's see how that works out.

By the way, youngdan, I believe there is a time and a place for rancour and juvenile taunting. One has to let off steam now and again

i couldn#t log back in as zakalwe in p.ie, so have reregistered as zakalwe1 (a newbie). i emailed the site hosts about a week ago but have had no response.
i'll pop into p.ie but prob won't contribute anymore. its hard as i have to bite my lip as some of the crap posted there.

anyway, good riddance to the racists and single issue posters.

FYI, I've had three incarnations on p.ie - all banned and finally my IP address banned for ever. My quote in the original post is from an email I received which Im reluctant to provide a link for since it will I imagine bring the world and its wife into my email box.

I was banned permanently in a week when I had written about Israel/Palestine including a quote from Gilad Aztmon - an Israeli who is highly critical of Israeli policy in Palestine and who has written some thought provoking humourous pieces about the situation. The poster LChaim descended on the thread (an avowed ex member of Mossad, I've heard) in rage and fury. There is another Zionist there too whose name I forget for the moent - and he too was beside himself with rage. The thread was deleted without explanation as were others I posted and I have never been allowed back. In the same week, I criticised Brendan O' Connor's articles on the Bertie Ahern/Mahon saga and also the Harney/Geoghegan conflict of interest re health service. My style of posting was the same as it is here although,. Some of the more right wing posters over there clearly think personal abuse is a substitute for rational discussion. So, no, I'm not 'rushing' to MN to complain about this without having found out what lies behind my banning. Ive also had some intriguingly aggressive communications from the great David Cochrane and about whom many posters on p.ie are nauseatingly sychophantic.

I presume it's the principle of the thing which upsets you, and that you're really quite glad of the oppertunity to spend more time with us?

Shame about getting kicked off P.ie, and they certainly should have told you why. But you're the bigger fool if you thought they were democratic. You're not that gullible, right?

On the matter of free speech, there are limits. It's a simple matter of legislation. And I daresay I can think of a scenario where you'd get kicked off this site Aragon. But I'm far more likely to go sooner.

905 wrote:

I presume it's the principle of the thing which upsets you, and that you're really quite glad of the oppertunity to spend more time with us?

Shame about getting kicked off P.ie, and they certainly should have told you why. But you're the bigger fool if you thought they were democratic. You're not that gullible, right?

On the matter of free speech, there are limits. It's a simple matter of legislation. And I daresay I can think of a scenario where you'd get kicked off this site Aragon. But I'm far more likely to go sooner.

Are you feeling tempted to label a few people 905 ? Our hope is that no-one will ever be kicked off, I think, although I know that Ard-Taoiseach did prepare a Defenstration Chamber just in case any serious trolling arose.

Aragon wrote:

FYI, I've had three incarnations on p.ie - all banned and finally my IP address banned for ever.

That really is OTT as it can't be for trolling so it's either a technical issue or political. It's clearly the latter going by the fact your IP is banned.

You could try and create the account through tor* and access the site through that... although whether you'd want to anymore is another thing....


* (Speaking of authoritarian net restrictions....tor is used a lot in China and proxies your IP, hence it can be pretty slow....)
http://www.torproject.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
you can use it in tandem with privoxy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privoxy

Did you piss Dave off, Aragon?

Auditor #9 wrote:

Did you piss Dave off, Aragon?

Aragon, as he/she says, posted in the same way here as on P.ie. I guess the answer is yes

cactus flower wrote:

905 wrote:

On the matter of free speech, there are limits. It's a simple matter of legislation. And I daresay I can think of a scenario where you'd get kicked off this site Aragon. But I'm far more likely to go sooner.

Are you feeling tempted to label a few people 905 ?

You know who you are.

tonys wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

tonys wrote:

All appearances to the contrary, Cochrane is still in place is he not.

But you're not.

True, are you telling me that you agree with him.

Why was tonys banned? Is there any FFers left over there?

Zhou_Enlai wrote:

tonys wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

tonys wrote:

All appearances to the contrary, Cochrane is still in place is he not.

But you're not.

True, are you telling me that you agree with him.

Why was tonys banned? Is there any FFers left over there?

I see may people asking the same question over on P.ie. There doesn't seem to be an answer.

cactus flower wrote:

Zhou_Enlai wrote:

tonys wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

tonys wrote:

All appearances to the contrary, Cochrane is still in place is he not.

But you're not.

True, are you telling me that you agree with him.

Why was tonys banned? Is there any FFers left over there?

I see may people asking the same question over on P.ie. There doesn't seem to be an answer.

Tonys (the innocent, as he is now known) was banned from politics.ie by one Mr. Cochrane of that parish, brought about exclusively as a result of the humour lobotomy suffered by the same Mr. Cochrane some time ago. Having said that I absolve him of any personal blame, faced with the choice of arguing his case or banning Tonys, Mr. Cochrane did the only thing he could do.

Zhou_Enlai wrote:

tonys wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

tonys wrote:

All appearances to the contrary, Cochrane is still in place is he not.

But you're not.

True, are you telling me that you agree with him.

Why was tonys banned? Is there any FFers left over there?

There are, they have taken to bitching quietly in the corner.

cookiemonster wrote:

Zhou_Enlai wrote:

tonys wrote:

cookiemonster wrote:

tonys wrote:

All appearances to the contrary, Cochrane is still in place is he not.

But you're not.

True, are you telling me that you agree with him.

Why was tonys banned? Is there any FFers left over there?

There are, they have taken to bitching quietly in the corner.

Well, most of them were gone before me. Tonys was one of the last. Perhaps that is what DC wants. It is his site as he and his minions often see fit to remind people. I hope he is enjoying his site.

well, for some reason i cannot post there anymore either. i have no idea why.

i cannot log in under zakalwe, and emailed the site to request a log in. i registered under zakalwe1 and tried to post in an economy forum, but to no avail. it kicked me out.

i had no idea i was so controversial or unpopular

I can log in fine. Just changed my password and that there to check because I hadn't bothered to try until today. I rarely go on these days.

The "party political" mutual battering on P.ie between three or four (or maybe five) not very different parties is only fun if you are part of that game. It is mainly shadow boxing anyway. What matters most to those parties imo is who gets to control the spoils. Now that the spoils are looking very peaky, we should expect some form of hiatus in the shadow boxing.

Politics.ie will undoubtedly continue to thrive by feasting on fresh blood, whilst in its chambers the glorious names of the heroic posters of yore will fade into dust.

It is up the Machine Nation to carry the posting flag forward on these threads into a glorious, diverse and enthralling future unfettered by personal gripes and guided by mutual respect and the Site Charter

indeed the flight of the politicos predated p.ie 2.0.

rock has gone and many others whom attracted me to that place in the first place.

its now dominated by cochrane cronies, rabid republicans, religious nuts and racists. all who tended to advocate a "no" to lisbon funnily enough.

maybe ganly has taken it over to recruit his private army in advance of a putsch?

Just tends to be full of people taking the pishhhh in my experience. It can be funny enough to join in every now and then but it wouldn't compel you to stay as the political debate of the past once did.