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PostSubject: Drugs and the CIA - Conspiracy Theory or Conspiracy ?   Drugs and the CIA - Conspiracy Theory or Conspiracy ? EmptyTue Aug 19, 2008 12:02 am

The extent to which heroin production has increased since the US invasion of Afghanistan is striking. http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/asia/afghanistan/afghanistan.html

It brought to mind the stories I had heard about how the CIA had flooded the black US ghettoes with drugs in the 1970s and 80s.

This is an NBC report



A google search of CIA and drugs produced over 8 million hits. Its obvious that I'm not the first person to think about this.

This is one random sample.

http://www.angelfire.com/id/ciadrugs/

I would like to explore the connection of the CIA and drugs, good, bad or neutral. I would appreciate any information and reliable sources. If there is a conspiracy theory, lets expose it. Likewise if there's a conspiracy.
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There was a big thing about drugs and the CIA in Vietnam. I completely forget the details though, but it was linked to the whole missing in action saga.

I'll watch Rambo II and see if I can gather any details.

As for Afghanistan, I think it has more to do with letting a bunch of warlords and criminals (the old Northern Alliance/United Front) run the country with minimun interference. To actually interfere would break the golden 'do-the-barest-amount-neccessary-to-make-it look-like-a-victory' rule.
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I would also be concerned about promoting types of music linked to drugs. Like techno music.
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I would argue that all music is linked to drugs in some way.
As for the CIA being linked to drug dealing - Didn't Howard Marks in one of his books detail how a contact in the CIA wanted him to smuggle cannabis into the US using their own military planes? I think I remember something like that
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I would argue that all music is linked to drugs in some way.
As for the CIA being linked to drug dealing - Didn't Howard Marks in one of his books detail how a contact in the CIA wanted him to smuggle cannabis into the US using their own military planes? I think I remember something like that

Here's a good video to summarise one of the CIA drugs allegation - the Contras, crack cocaine and the ruin of black communities. It puts both sides of the case.

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Given that the Ames Research Centre keeps tabs on us on a regular basis you want to knock off the anti-american propaganda or some jet packed Robocop/Hellboy android will be winging it's way to vapourise your house ye heathens........what's wrong with lacing the public's water supply with laudanum........you have to grow the poppies somewhere......it's manifest destiny...........
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That video is very interesting, cactus. Have you any idea what year it's from? John Kerry is interviewed in it and says he believes there are elements of the US government who are implicit in importing drugs.
Another interesting thing is the story of the journalist featured in it, Gary Webb. He was found dead in 2006 and the coroner declared his death a suicide. The interesting thing is that he managed to shoot himself in the head twice.
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MENA
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youngdan wrote:
MENA

MENA ?
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Middle East & North Africa?

Not know for either its drug problems or production? Can't say I have seen fields of poppies in the Atlas mountains.
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MENA Arkansas.
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Squire wrote:
Middle East & North Africa?

Not know for either its drug problems or production? Can't say I have seen fields of poppies in the Atlas mountains.
Useless fact of the day: The Beqaa valley in Lebannon is quite a copious producer of drugs.
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905 wrote:
Squire wrote:
Middle East & North Africa?

Not know for either its drug problems or production? Can't say I have seen fields of poppies in the Atlas mountains.
Useless fact of the day: The Beqaa valley in Lebannon is quite a copious producer of drugs.

C'mon lads. This is all very vague. MENA ? What kind of drugs 905?
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youngdan wrote:
MENA Arkansas.

Are you talkin about Clinton and allegations of cocaine importation?
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SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
youngdan wrote:
MENA Arkansas.

Are you talkin about Clinton and allegations of cocaine importation?

Allegations out of Jerry Fallwell and an anti-semitic multi-millionaire?

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/26news.html
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cactus flower wrote:
905 wrote:
Squire wrote:
Middle East & North Africa?

Not know for either its drug problems or production? Can't say I have seen fields of poppies in the Atlas mountains.
Useless fact of the day: The Beqaa valley in Lebannon is quite a copious producer of drugs.

C'mon lads. This is all very vague. MENA ? What kind of drugs 905?
Cannabis for the most part.
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