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PostSubject: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:23 pm

Sarkozy and Merkel unveiled a new scheme for a mediterranean equivilant to the EU, designed to boost ties with mediterranean countries. http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/2008/0314/1205104771720.html

Unfortunately, the EU already has such a scheme: the Barcelona Process. The main difference, as I see it, is the exclusion of non-Med countries (that's you and me) and the bigger role of non-EU med countries.

Methinks this will overshadow the Barcelona Process, which would dilute EU influence in the area. Not neccessarily a bad thing, if it wasn't for the fact that France will be the key country in this. Turkey doesn't want a part, as they see it as a poor man's EU.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:27 pm


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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:55 pm

what's germany got to do with the med?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:17 pm

lostexpectation wrote:
what's germany got to do with the med?

Perhaps their interest has more to do with Turkey.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:18 pm

lostexpectation wrote:
what's germany got to do with the med?
That's the weird thing. Germany seems to oppose the new scheme, as it would dilute their influence in the area via the Barcelona Process. Why Merkel unveiled it with Sarkozy is the question.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:19 pm

riadach wrote:
lostexpectation wrote:
what's germany got to do with the med?

Perhaps their interest has more to do with Turkey.
Turkey isn't part of the new scheme.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:34 pm

905 wrote:
riadach wrote:
lostexpectation wrote:
what's germany got to do with the med?

Perhaps their interest has more to do with Turkey.
Turkey isn't part of the new scheme.

It may have been the original aim though.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:57 pm

When france was elected I said Sarkozy would be good for france and bad for everybody else. I also said his would be the most damaging claws in my beloved EU.

More are more this seems to be the case.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:06 pm

Doesn't he have local elections or something coming up? Please God it will put him back in his box.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:07 pm

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When france was elected I said Sarkozy would be good for france and bad for everybody else. I also said his would be the most damaging claws in my beloved EU.

More are more this seems to be the case.
Funny, the opposite seems true of Merkel. Loved abroad, but barely keeping it together at home. It's like ying and yang with those two.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:10 pm

905 wrote:
cookiemonster wrote:
When france was elected I said Sarkozy would be good for france and bad for everybody else. I also said his would be the most damaging claws in my beloved EU.

More are more this seems to be the case.
Funny, the opposite seems true of Merkel. Loved abroad, but barely keeping it together at home. It's like ying and yang with those two.

They should come together. Reform the carolingian holy roman empire. Forget all that fussing and feuding that happened after Louis the Pious. The world needs a hre. Get lotharingia to rejoin too and Northern Lombary.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:18 pm

I was think that combined, they could really be the making of the EU. And of all the French leaders, Sarkozy looks to be the most likely to go setting up holy empires. Would come naturally to Merkel, of course. And they have a common enemy in the from of the Other: Turkey, playing the Moor.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:28 pm

the first round was last week and sarkozy party lost alot of ground
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:50 pm

lostexpectation wrote:
what's germany got to do with the med?

Happy memories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika_Korps

Cool
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:05 am

I was idly browsing the English Wikipedia today when I came across an article about the Famine.

Is the following paragraph true?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hunger#Ottoman_humanitarian_aid_during_the_Great_Famine

If true, perhaps it would make some opponents of Turkish entry to the EU reconsider
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:21 am

i think there is a statue in Drogheda. France, c'est toi? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 'Club Med' and Sarkozy   Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:36 am

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i think there is a statue in Drogheda. France, c'est toi? Very Happy

Mais oui. Vive le Québec libre!
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