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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:08 am

Music is best live.

The industry seems to be going through a peculiar sort of transition. On one level the reality television shows have a huge influence on things and as you say overall sales within the industry must be falling. At the same time the local band scene is positively booming on college campuses and everywhere else away from the big record labels.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:28 am

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Here you go, johnfás

She's a little rascal.

She is the only one who could have done a decent cover of that Jeff Buckley classic as well. Watching both those finalists butcher it was as upsetting as hearing Rufus Wainright do the same. The song has grit, their's had none.

The song is not by Jeff Buckley. It is by Leonard Cohen and was released in 1984. Buckley's cover was released a decade later.

The song has been recorded in numerous styles. JLS's version was very weak but Alexandra's was anything but a butchering. As a longtime fan of Leonard Cohen I was dreading what would be done to the song but was extremely impressed by Alexandra's version. It is different to Buckley's cover but true to the song as conceived originally by Cohen.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:15 am

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The song is not by Jeff Buckley. It is by Leonard Cohen and was released in 1984. Buckley's cover was released a decade later.
From the very fine album 'Various Postions' worthy of a thread all to itself ! I've already posted what I think is a waltz from the Buckley album 'Grace' called 'Grace' on the waltz thread.

The cohen album is one of my all time favourites. I've bought it so many times and left it places - it's weird - it's evangelising itself or something. Something very dear to you tends to not have material form - the album is inside my head.

And I sing this for the Captain, whose Ship has not been built
For the Mother in confusion her Cradle still unfilled;
For the Heart With No Companion, for the Soul without a King;
For the Prima Ballerina, who cannot dance to anything...

For the days of shame that are coming ...


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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:33 am

Auditor #9 wrote:
Papal Knight wrote:
The song is not by Jeff Buckley. It is by Leonard Cohen and was released in 1984. Buckley's cover was released a decade later.
From the very fine album 'Various Postions' worthy of a thread all to itself ! I've already posted what I think is a waltz from the Buckley album 'Grace' called 'Grace' on the waltz thread.

The cohen album is one of my all time favourites. I've bought it so many times and left it places - it's weird - it's evangelising itself or something. Something very dear to you tends to not have material form - the album is inside my head.

And I sing this for the Captain, whose Ship has not been built
For the Mother in confusion her Cradle still unfilled;
For the Heart With No Companion, for the Soul without a King;
For the Prima Ballerina, who cannot dance to anything...

For the days of shame that are coming ...



A masterpiece, like so much by Cohen. (Damn it. I must be tired. I originally wrote 'Cowen'!!! affraid ) I find his music so haunting, his lyrics thought-provoking.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:37 pm

eirigi's alternative take on a British Army promotion song apparently produced by the poor
X-factor contestants -

http://www.eirigi.org/


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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:38 pm

Someone should e-mail Simon Cowell with that and let him sue them.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:40 pm

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Someone should e-mail Simon Cowell with that and let him sue them.

tbh, I didn't turn the sound on. Is it defamatory, or true?
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:45 pm

Well I'd imagine its a breach of copyright and that Cowell wouldn't want his show ripped off for political ends.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:52 pm

I'll replace it with a link to the website and people can go and look for it if they want to.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:39 am

cactus flower wrote:
eirigi's alternative take on a British Army promotion song apparently produced by the poor
X-factor contestants -

http://www.eirigi.org/

Its only eirigi, not anyone important. tongue

Eirigi are to Irish politics what George Formby was to opera or Jackie Healy Rae is to sex appeal!
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:48 am

With the direction of this thread I can see why anmajornarthainig stopped posting here.......
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:10 am

Feck X Factor. What about K factor?

Kila's Christmas gig is on next Sunday and I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:12 am

Oh dear, never got the hang of Kila. You don't strike me as the type to be bobbing around to Kila Kate.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:18 am

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Oh dear, never got the hang of Kila. You don't strike me as the type to be bobbing around to Kila Kate.
What is the 'bobbing around to Kila type'? Then I'll tell you if that's me.

I've come to Kila only in the last year and am hooked. Music that makes me dance in the car has to be good - Ón Taobh Tuathail Amach agus mé ag tiomáint agus Cáitín ag damhas, ag damhas sa ghluaisteáin.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:20 am

Iontach maith ar fad. Kila types tend to have stories about getting stoned and searching for moving Virgin Mary statues in the countryside.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:28 am

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Kila types tend to have stories about getting stoned and searching for moving Virgin Mary statues in the countryside.

I see.

You know me so well... Wink

But if I do become a groupie, I will let you know on Monday what's going down in Ballinspittle.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:34 pm

cactus flower wrote:
SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
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X-Factor is the most disingenuous and manipulative money making racket that any medium of communication has ever vomitted upon it's willing consumers/victims.

I truely despair for humanity.......

Superficial and ill-informed. Are you sure you didn't mean to post that on politics.ie? That is the normal home of superficial and ill-informed posts. Very Happy

Good Gods. Are you for real?

Is it really that different from the fleadh, or the eisteddfod, SeathrúnCeitinn? Competitive singing goes back a long way.

But implicit exploitation of the mentally unsound for the gratification of millions isn't. The parading of the rejects from the programme on the final night was shocking and humiliating.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:44 pm

Ard-Taoiseach wrote:
cactus flower wrote:
SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
Papal Knight wrote:
SeathrúnCeitinn wrote:
X-Factor is the most disingenuous and manipulative money making racket that any medium of communication has ever vomitted upon it's willing consumers/victims.

I truely despair for humanity.......

Superficial and ill-informed. Are you sure you didn't mean to post that on politics.ie? That is the normal home of superficial and ill-informed posts. Very Happy

Good Gods. Are you for real?

Is it really that different from the fleadh, or the eisteddfod, SeathrúnCeitinn? Competitive singing goes back a long way.

But implicit exploitation of the mentally unsound for the gratification of millions isn't. The parading of the rejects from the programme on the final night was shocking and humiliating.

Yeah, I thought that was a bit un-called for too. But then, is it any different to a drunken karaoke on a Saturday night ?
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:47 pm

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Yeah, I thought that was a bit un-called for too. But then, is it any different to a drunken karaoke on a Saturday night ?

A drunken karaoke is not broadcast live to a nation of 60 million people and a drunken karaoke is a bit of fun amongst friends. Furthermore, at a drunken karaoke, it is expected that you will be at least a touch off key, so the bar is lower than having to face the judgement of leading people in the music industry.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:48 pm

That man who can sing the long notes has some talent though...
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:49 pm

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EvotingMachine0197 wrote:


Yeah, I thought that was a bit un-called for too. But then, is it any different to a drunken karaoke on a Saturday night ?

A drunken karaoke is not broadcast live to a nation of 60 million people and a drunken karaoke is a bit of fun amongst friends. Furthermore, at a drunken karaoke, it is expected that you will be at least a touch off key, so the bar is lower than having to face the judgement of leading people in the music industry.

Good point, a considerable difference. There was certainly an element of freak-show about it and it should not have been included. There was no need. Especially on Final night.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:51 pm

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Yeah, I thought that was a bit un-called for too. But then, is it any different to a drunken karaoke on a Saturday night ?

A drunken karaoke is not broadcast live to a nation of 60 million people and a drunken karaoke is a bit of fun amongst friends. Furthermore, at a drunken karaoke, it is expected that you will be at least a touch off key, so the bar is lower than having to face the judgement of leading people in the music industry.

Good point, a considerable difference. There was certainly an element of freak-show about it and it should not have been included. There was no need. Especially on Final night.

It always features on final night. The people themselves choose whether they want to take part and a lot of them, as they showed on Saturday, play up on how bad they are, pretending to be worse than they were shown to be in the auditions. In fact every year the producers have to turn away people who apply to take part. It is a complete piss-take by those taking part in it, deliberately singing off key and out of time.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:31 pm

Elton John has put his oar in to this one:

16/12/2008 - 10:15:06
Elton John has lashed out at 'The X Factor' - insisting he would rather lose his genitals than watch it.

The Rocket Man is due to perform a concert in London on New Year's Eve - with the 2008 'X Factor' winner Alexandra Burke also lined up to appear at the gig.

But he has risked sparking a row with organisers by blasting the TV show, in which contestants battle for a record contract by singing their own versions of classic songs in a weekly knock-out competition.

During a show at London's O2 Arena on Saturday, John said he would rather have his "c**k bitten off by an Alsatian (dog)" than watch the show, adding: "My balls too."

And it's not the first time the singer has slammed the programme. In 2006, he told a journalist: "'The X Factor' is a cruise ship show. I've got nothing against the people who go on - good luck to them. But I hate how they're treated."

Burke was crowned the 2008 'X Factor' champion on Saturday night.
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:20 pm

so there'll be 2 divas on stage this saturday. i'd prefer to listen to alexandra than the other prat!
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PostSubject: Re: X Factor brilliance   Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:48 pm

One man's light entertainment is another man's dog induced bollock removal.

Personally, I would rather fall out of a tree into a box of nettles than watch 90 minutes of premiership soccer.

It's a TV show FFS. Millions watch it. Whatever makes them happy ...
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