The ISEQ Thread Part II - Trading below 2000

It's battling away to keep just above 2100 ...

Is it dying ?

Nah must be very low volumes of trade... dropped a chunk in the morning and then all the stockbrokers went home so it is just bobbing around with the odd sale.

Hate to be a stockbroker right now - say they're at the tail end of alot of abuse!

Has the iseq gone below 2K at any stage?

I don't know what to make of the banks. When is this PWC report due out ?

No it hasn't dropped below 2,000 in the present situation.

PWC report is out today... we don't know anything more than that. All the saucy bits will be removed anyway - probably a bit like buying a porno in Ireland 30 years ago.

Now we're seeing the afternoon fall off, down 20 in the last hour.

I'm sort of waiting for AIB to hit 0.50 to have a go. No real reason for that, apart from insanity perhaps ...

Anglo Annual report just published.

Annual Report 08/09

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:

Anglo Annual report just published.

Annual Report 08/09

Quote :

Anglo Irish Bank loaned a total of €451m to ten 'long-standing customers' last year to buy shares in the bank.

In its annual report covering the year to the end of September, Anglo Irish said €83m of this had been repaid.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0220/banks.html

So 451 minus 83 = 368

Then minus whatever the assessor values the shares at (How many shares) Guess 20 Million.

Then the 10 are liable for 25% of the loan. Page 6 of report. = 112.75


So 451-83-20-112.75 = 235 Million written off ?

9.5 million Directors remunerations.

Assets went up - they loaned more so that people could pay interest, as I recall.

And main bank stocks were doing buoyantly the last time I looked ......

It's kinda really losing whatever's left now ....

Pancake Tuesday tomorrow lads - the ISEQ will have a '1' in front of it.

Panic Tuesday?

coc wrote:

Panic Tuesday?

Toxic Tuesday

Fuck Sake Tuesday.

They're saying there is going to be a bounce later on because the futures are up (?) but for now on this Panic Tuesday it looks like it's a 10, 9, 8 ... countdown to the Iseq with a '1' at the start.

Has anybody splashed out on new shares ? It's a bit of time for quick money - Soden on Q&A last night said BOI and the others would be nationalised ....

Do you know what will have happened to you shares EVM ? What will BOI have done with your ton ?

I have a funny feeling this is a good time to buy something. Not sure what it is though.

cactus flower wrote:

I have a funny feeling this is a good time to buy something. Not sure what it is though.

Gold and silver ? You could be very right though - there must be something as all things are cheap. Have you anything in mind ? It's worth thinking about if you have a spare grand or two - maybe more.

As long as that business stays in business then all stocks will go up eventually. Hugh Hendry on the other thread reckons 10 to 15 years before recovery. Is he scaremongering? What business will last through that ? He reckoned agricultural products would last or at least be stable but he admitted he got it wrong for a rising market price because ag stocks fell despereately he said. They will endure though surely to God (he said it would be 5 to 10 years before they'd get to some highs and make money)

So what will last and if you can find it, what will rise ?

The iseq is at 1995

Auditor #9 wrote:

They're saying there is going to be a bounce later on because the futures are up (?) but for now on this Panic Tuesday it looks like it's a 10, 9, 8 ... countdown to the Iseq with a '1' at the start.

Has anybody splashed out on new shares ? It's a bit of time for quick money - Soden on Q&A last night said BOI and the others would be nationalised ....

Do you know what will have happened to you shares EVM ? What will BOI have done with your ton ?

I thought Soden said they should take a 51% stake ? Is that the same as nationalising ?

I have 2100 BOI at an average cost of 0.90 cent. So I'm in the poo with that. Someone's getting me back for winning 50p on Red Rum.

There we go now ...

I must listen again to Q&A but does anyone really know what's going to happen now ?

Could be they'll have to start making stuff up soon - shares in these banks surely have to be kept at some value don't they ? Could it be that much of a rip off if you were to lose a couple of grand just like that not to mention rakes of others ?

I suppose shares depend on the profits that are made though. If the company is making no profit then the shares are useless. But can it be turned into a sort of cooperative bank where your shares get converted into a kind of deposit that you can't cash for a while. Or is share buying and selling purely gambling (for most people) and you stand to lose it fair and square.

New stuff is going to have to be invented to deal with all this bull$hit now.

18 months ago buying bank shares was a solid investment. These last 6 months it is gambling. If the bank is insolvent, the shares are worthless. End of.

ISEQ stages a massive recovery.