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PostSubject: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyThu Sep 18, 2008 6:11 pm

The general state of flux and chaos at the moment may call for cool heads and well dug-in heels. Google is full of helpful sites to help us to resist - the draft, brainwashing, sales pitches, bribery, propoganda, New Age spirituality, the Revenue Collectors, the Devil and social drinking.

Do you have any successful resistance techniques for any of these or other threats to our persons, that you are prepared to share with the Machine Nation ?



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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyThu Sep 18, 2008 6:16 pm

I resist most things by uttering the words fuck and off in a specific order and cadence. Works for me. (except for beer of course).
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Those who put their hope not in wealth but in the things of life and thereafter which are truly profound tend to finish up ok, whether they gain a palace of treasures or not.

These are johnfás' wise words for the day.
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i try to resist the temptation of the flesh.
the spirit is willing, but the flesh, oh the flesh....
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyThu Sep 18, 2008 6:24 pm

The worldly hope men set their hearts upon
Turns ashes - or it prospers; and anon,
Like snow upon the desert's dusty face
Lighting a little hour or tow - is gone.

"How sweet is mortal sovereignty" - think some:
Others - "How blest the Paradise to come"
Ah, take the cash in hand and leave the rest;
Oh, the brave music of a distant drum!
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never understood the women needing bikes theory by feminists tho
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So - give in to the inner demons Twisted Evil and tell the rest to eff off, is it ?

(not you, johnfás)
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyThu Sep 18, 2008 6:39 pm

I think the notion of resistance is very broad. How do we even begin to analyse it?

On the one hand we have so called resistance fighters. Viewing themselves as protecting an ideal to the death if necessary.

On the other hand we talk of young people surrounded by so many pressures which are not healthy to them and ask them to resist them.

Whilst both requiring a level of will power they appear to be very different things. The first appears to be a positive action whilst the latter appears defensive in nature, the need to step back from what society might see as the norm.

In my opinion for any resistance to be anything but a futile exercise it must be positive in nature. There is no point saying to a girl surrounding by a society obsessed with image that they should ignore these pressures, a negative action. Rather we must instill a sense of self worth within people so that it is an actual alternative, rather than merely a reaction.

It is on that basis that resistance can work.

It is for this reason that you have so many peaceful movements which have failed and eventually succumbed to violent ends. A peaceful resistance must not merely be one of many options which is placed on the table for consideration with acceptable alternatives either side. In order to succeed it must be the only option considered.
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To even want to resist temptation takes either long-term pragmatism - avoiding short-term pleasures for long-term gain, or for avoidance of destruction of health or relationships; or a religious/spiritual outlook - the view that the soul is damaged by the weakness of the flesh and/or that experience of divinity is only possible with detachment from worldly desires (e.g. Krishna's teaching to Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita).

The former seems insufficient for resisting temptation - we humans are so often driven by prima facie reasons for acting, rational calculation of long term advantage can literally be forgotten in the heat of the moment. The latter is diminished by its requirement of spiritual belief and the fact that it requires a lifetime of practice to achieve - for what? 'Experience of the Godhead' doesn't resonate with the kids these days unless it involves narcotics of some description.

I live in hope there is a balance between these two - a way of life pragmatic without being coldly calculating, rich and 'connected to the world' without reliance on deus ex machina spiritual beings; and certainly not lived according to impulse and whim as much of our consumerist life is.
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Arete wrote:
To even want to resist temptation takes either long-term pragmatism - avoiding short-term pleasures for long-term gain, or for avoidance of destruction of health or relationships; or a religious/spiritual outlook - the view that the soul is damaged by the weakness of the flesh and/or that experience of divinity is only possible with detachment from worldly desires (e.g. Krishna's teaching to Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita).

The former seems insufficient for resisting temptation - we humans are so often driven by prima facie reasons for acting, rational calculation of long term advantage can literally be forgotten in the heat of the moment. The latter is diminished by its requirement of spiritual belief and the fact that it requires a lifetime of practice to achieve - for what? 'Experience of the Godhead' doesn't resonate with the kids these days unless it involves narcotics of some description.

I live in hope there is a balance between these two - a way of life pragmatic without being coldly calculating, rich and 'connected to the world' without reliance on deus ex machina spiritual beings; and certainly not lived according to impulse and whim as much of our consumerist life is.

Very nice post, Arete, even from a non-believing point of view.
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyTue Dec 02, 2008 12:22 pm

cactus flower wrote:
Arete wrote:
To even want to resist temptation takes either long-term pragmatism - avoiding short-term pleasures for long-term gain, or for avoidance of destruction of health or relationships; or a religious/spiritual outlook - the view that the soul is damaged by the weakness of the flesh and/or that experience of divinity is only possible with detachment from worldly desires (e.g. Krishna's teaching to Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita).

The former seems insufficient for resisting temptation - we humans are so often driven by prima facie reasons for acting, rational calculation of long term advantage can literally be forgotten in the heat of the moment. The latter is diminished by its requirement of spiritual belief and the fact that it requires a lifetime of practice to achieve - for what? 'Experience of the Godhead' doesn't resonate with the kids these days unless it involves narcotics of some description.

I live in hope there is a balance between these two - a way of life pragmatic without being coldly calculating, rich and 'connected to the world' without reliance on deus ex machina spiritual beings; and certainly not lived according to impulse and whim as much of our consumerist life is.

Very nice post, Arete, even from a non-believing point of view.

Thanks cactus flower, though reading it back it seems a bit hand-wringin' and fence-sittin'. I'm going with the spiritual option for resisting temptation - the belief that by resisting consumption of the temporary things of this world we can experience something greater than pleasure (for true believers, a direct connection with divinity) and avoid the unhappiness of failing to achieve our infinite wants. Despite my religious skepticism i am greatly interested in the perennial philosophy - the view that there is something divine in/about the universe; that humans can directly experience it; and that in attempting to do so good living emerges.
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyTue Dec 02, 2008 12:44 pm

Interesting topic. Does it refer to giving in to gluttony ? I'm interpreting it that way. Self-indulgence, gluttony, giving in to whims and addictions - chocolate, nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, a "good bargain" (jaysus I've been sold some crap !) ...

Is the ability to resist rooted in training by your parents or others or is there an absoluteness to it where desire needs to be fought or fulfilled no matter what the initial conditioning ?

What about gullibility - is that included too ? You'd "believe anything" syndrome
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyTue Dec 02, 2008 6:57 pm

Do not resist. Give in to your temptations. Do what thou willst and do not feel guilty.

In truth you must realise that the temptation is but a natural force trying to bring us back into harmony with the nature that evolved us over the past 500million years or so. Those desires have a meaning and should not be spurned.
That is not to say that you should always give in. There should be a balance between your independence and the forces which draw you to your true nature.
Only when you submit from time to time can you truly understand what life is all about.
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Respvblica wrote:
Do not resist. Give in to your temptations. Do what thou willst and do not feel guilty.

Where do you draw the line, in your opinion? What if the temptation is illegal/societally unacceptable/morally reprehensible?

How does one define the latter two... that is probably worthy of a thread in and of itself.
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PostSubject: Re: How To Resist ? (Everything But Temptation)   How To Resist ?   (Everything But Temptation) EmptyTue Dec 02, 2008 7:29 pm

johnfás wrote:
Respvblica wrote:
Do not resist. Give in to your temptations. Do what thou willst and do not feel guilty.

Where do you draw the line, in your opinion? What if the temptation is illegal/societally unacceptable/morally reprehensible?

How does one define the latter two... that is probably worthy of a thread in and of itself.
I think its down to the risk and how much pain/loss the individual is prepared to take.

I like the idea of for example pigging out, in the sense that although you will "pay" later, you do get back into touch with your primal "basic" sense. I know people are going to think that I'm being crude here, but isnt it a form of paradise to be just "eating" when your hungry, "sleeping" when your tired etc. Its all got to be balanced and it is really an idivdual decision. I think if we went through a pig out phase and let it pass over us, we would understand it to be not what we really want or at least just something for that time.

DO you hate people for letting themselves go or do you secretly admire them?
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