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 Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol

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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:48 pm

The Lighthouse Keeper wrote:
Thank you! It's good to try a new forum to p.ie What a Face
I just wonder how many other countries with high consumption per capita obsess at drink being the source of all ills, or is it a uniquely Irish phenenomenon.

The more we drink, the more we obsess, I suppose The Lighthouse Keeper.

btw I like your avatar. I trust the lighthouse will be a beacon that illuminates even the dimmest corners of Machine Nations threads.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:04 pm

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I trust the lighthouse will be a beacon that illuminates even the dimmest corners of Machine Nations threads.

Oi, I though that was me!
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:59 am

I always drink at Halloweeen but never at Christmas.

While the WHO report is compelling, I suspect it might be a bit too general to fit Ireland, which has a rather unique relation to the drug. I think it's possibly comparable to the Brazilian notion of sex or the American notion of guns, a cherished national custom with more pros than (regretable) cons.

It will be seen as Nanny statism, and Nanny statism is a nuisance at best, and an unsustainable luxury (for the Irish Times editor and her ilk) during these difficult times.

I personally like alcohol ads and shudder at the thought of an evenings television dominated by ads for settees and shampoo. Of course, my own preferences are of no consequence when considering whjat is a very serious matter. In my defence though, I only drink vodka and the only vodka ads on are shite.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:18 pm

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I always drink at Halloweeen but never at Christmas.

While the WHO report is compelling, I suspect it might be a bit too general to fit Ireland, which has a rather unique relation to the drug. I think it's possibly comparable to the Brazilian notion of sex or the American notion of guns, a cherished national custom with more pros than (regretable) cons.

It will be seen as Nanny statism, and Nanny statism is a nuisance at best, and an unsustainable luxury (for the Irish Times editor and her ilk) during these difficult times.

I personally like alcohol ads and shudder at the thought of an evenings television dominated by ads for settees and shampoo. Of course, my own preferences are of no consequence when considering whjat is a very serious matter. In my defence though, I only drink vodka and the only vodka ads on are shite.

I think the absolute vodka adds were good, you know where they showed an image and though the vodka bottle you could see the truth behind it all.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:21 pm

I only drink Beer, but even Babycham ads remind me of beer, so I go and get some beer.

Alcohol ads have a 'whatever you're having yourself' effect on me. Sad

But then again, most things remind me of beer.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:16 pm

cookiemonster wrote:
cactus flower wrote:
I trust the lighthouse will be a beacon that illuminates even the dimmest corners of Machine Nations threads.

Oi, I though that was me!

I'll see if it can penetrate the haze of alcohol first!
Their may be some dim posters* but I hope there are very few dim corners on MN! Very Happy

*I haven't spotted his Dhimmatudeness from Gorey yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:17 pm

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I think the absolute vodka adds were good, you know where they showed an image and though the vodka bottle you could see the truth behind it all.
I don't remember Absolut vodka, which isn't good for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:59 pm

is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:04 pm

zakalwe wrote:
is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!

The poll doesn't do decimal percentages ... it'll be all fine if the numbers reach 100 voters.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:11 pm

zakalwe wrote:
is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!

Perhaps if you vote again, Zakalawe?
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:37 pm

johnfás wrote:
There was a Swedish ban on alcohol advertising a few years ago struck down by the ECJ as a measure having equivalent effect to a quantitive restriction on the free movement of goods within the community as it made it comparatively more difficult for companies from outside Sweden to establish a market share within the Swedish market.

Not sure if there would be a similar reaction now though as I would imagine the EU has developed a stance more against alcohol advertising than might previously had been the case. That said I am no expert on issues surrounding alcohol and the Community. I merely know about the free movement of goods. Very Happy

The case was:
Gourmet International Case C-405/98; [2001] ECR I 1795.

It was more recent than I had previously thought, 1998. However, the judgment was merely that it fell within the meaning of Article 28 EC. Namely that it was a measure having equivalent effect to a quantitative restriction. Such restrictions can be justified on the grounds of public health or on the basis of the mandatory requirements. Presumably Sweden then proceeded to do this but you wouldn't know from the facts of the case. It would require further investigation.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:57 pm

EvotingMachine0197 wrote:
I only drink Beer, but even Babycham ads remind me of beer, so I go and get some beer.

Alcohol ads have a 'whatever you're having yourself' effect on me. Sad

But then again, most things remind me of beer.

I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

zakalwe wrote:
is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!

jasis, that ACCA has paid for itself now!
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:50 pm

cookiemonster wrote:


I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

17? Do you think so? Neutral

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jasis, that ACCA has paid for itself now!

That it has!
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:34 pm

Does that rescue remedy stuff work? Seems a waste setting up a new thread and alcohol is the nearest I could think of Razz.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:45 pm

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I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

Apparently kids at festivals are loading their bags with Viagra as well as beer so that they can have both.

I was in Portlaoise last night at the Blizzards gig (good fun) - where they did play their Viagra Song (100mg man puts his foot to the floor and leaves the girls begging for more). They didn't mention anything about the contra-indications of mixing Vitamin V with the black stuff, however...
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:56 pm

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I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

Apparently kids at festivals are loading their bags with Viagra as well as beer so that they can have both.

Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:59 pm

johnfás wrote:
Does that rescue remedy stuff work? Seems a waste setting up a new thread and alcohol is the nearest I could think of Razz.

No, you're better off with the brandy leave the flowers in the garden.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:00 pm

New avator I see.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:59 pm

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I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

Apparently kids at festivals are loading their bags with Viagra as well as beer so that they can have both.

I was in Portlaoise last night at the Blizzards gig (good fun) - where they did play their Viagra Song (100mg man puts his foot to the floor and leaves the girls begging for more). They didn't mention anything about the contra-indications of mixing Vitamin V with the black stuff, however...

Would that be the rock and roll of sex ? Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:59 pm

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New avator I see.

She's the new black.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:00 pm

cookiemonster wrote:
johnfás wrote:
New avator I see.

She's the new black.

That she is. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:08 pm

zakalwe wrote:
is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!

Ignore the % sign and total votes, then everything is rosy.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:03 pm

cookiemonster wrote:
EvotingMachine0197 wrote:
I only drink Beer, but even Babycham ads remind me of beer, so I go and get some beer.

Alcohol ads have a 'whatever you're having yourself' effect on me. Sad

But then again, most things remind me of beer.

I think once you get past 17 beer takes over the roll of sex.

zakalwe wrote:
is the poll broken.

49% and 50% do not add up to 100% (unless the 1% is "undecided")!

jasis, that ACCA has paid for itself now!

i think you're mistaking me for someone else. i am ACA! Razz

and before the mud slinging occurs, if more accountants were as precise (anal) as me, the banking sector, nay, economy, nay whole global economy wouldn't be in dire straits.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:58 pm

I like alcohol and the quality of the ad helps me to assess the quality of chemical flavourings they are investing in. Advertising also helps me to know which drinks are to be avoided because they are girly.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll: Ban Advertising of Alcohol   Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:11 pm

Zhou_Enlai wrote:
I like alcohol and the quality of the ad helps me to assess the quality of chemical flavourings they are investing in. Advertising also helps me to know which drinks are to be avoided because they are girly.

I like the concept of gender delimited drinks.

You can have Jamesons if I can have Bellinis.
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