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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Kate P on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:40 pm

Now if Edo were to pop by he might have some words of wisdom, having read the entire list.

Once he could be sure he wouldn't be cut in half Shocked

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Auditor #9 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:59 pm

This is how we will decide it:

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It's the way God intended it to be.


Some how I get the feeling you already knew that result... Wink


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What ever could you mean by that?

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Ard-Taoiseach on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:06 pm

Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con!

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Auditor #9 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:10 pm

I think there may be a problem with

THIS
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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Ard-Taoiseach on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:14 pm

Auditor #9 wrote:I think there may be a problem with

THIS


Yes, there is quite an issue there.


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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by jmcc on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:17 pm

Ard-Taoiseach wrote:Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con!
Alea iacta est?

Regards...jmcc

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Ard-Taoiseach on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:19 pm

jmcc wrote:
Ard-Taoiseach wrote:Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con, Ru-bi-con!
Alea iacta est?

Regards...jmcc


Certe.

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Atticus on Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:15 pm

Well, have been zipping thru Klein's Shock Doctrine in the last couple of days anyway! I still recommend it, it's sooo nice to zip thru a book after the slog, to be honest, that was Collapse.

Will revist Jeffrey Sachs' End of Poverty with a more critical eye as Klein is definitely gunning for him so far. Stigilitz has had a positive mention as being the only economic bigwig who had doubts about the Washington Consensus.

Milton Friedman and his "Chicago Boys" - Pinochet in Chile -Argentina, Bolivia (Sachs - Evil or Very Mad ), Poland (Sachs again Evil or Very Mad ), China and just starting on Russia in 1990.

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Post by cactus flower on Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:47 pm

Atticus wrote:Well, have been zipping thru Klein's Shock Doctrine in the last couple of days anyway! I still recommend it, it's sooo nice to zip thru a book after the slog, to be honest, that was Collapse.

Will revist Jeffrey Sachs' End of Poverty with a more critical eye as Klein is definitely gunning for him so far. Stigilitz has had a positive mention as being the only economic bigwig who had doubts about the Washington Consensus.

Milton Friedman and his "Chicago Boys" - Pinochet in Chile -Argentina, Bolivia (Sachs - Evil or Very Mad ), Poland (Sachs again Evil or Very Mad ), China and just starting on Russia in 1990.


Right - I'm getting Shock, Shocked after the worthy slog of Collapse. Sad I have started re-reading Douthwaite to go with Stiglitz and now you go and drop Sachs on me... Mad

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Pax on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:12 pm

Atticus wrote:Well, have been zipping thru Klein's Shock Doctrine in the last couple of days anyway! I still recommend it, it's sooo nice to zip thru a book after the slog, to be honest, that was Collapse.

Will revist Jeffrey Sachs' End of Poverty with a more critical eye as Klein is definitely gunning for him so far. Stigilitz has had a positive mention as being the only economic bigwig who had doubts about the Washington Consensus.

Milton Friedman and his "Chicago Boys" - Pinochet in Chile -Argentina, Bolivia (Sachs - Evil or Very Mad ), Poland (Sachs again Evil or Very Mad ), China and just starting on Russia in 1990.


Yeah I'll go for The Shock Doctrine as my choice. It's a really quick read despite the size. The scope of the book, the pacing and the whole 'disaster capitalism' concept or angle is very interesting. I also found it a useful and page-turning 'companion' to David Harvey's “'A Brief History of Neoliberalism,'.

I've Rubicon on a shelf waiting to be read. Heard great things about it.


A possible future choice is Stiglitz's bud, Ha-Joon Chang and his
Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=9653

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Kate P on Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:04 am

So is this pick and mix or are we all reading Shock? I'm confused...

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Auditor #9 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:08 am

Doutewaite and Stiglitz Kate - the rest are recommended summer reading.

Collapse is hard enough going all the same.
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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by cactus flower on Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:00 am

Auditor #9 wrote:Doutewaite and Stiglitz Kate - the rest are recommended summer reading.

Collapse is hard enough going all the same.


Heck Audi - what have we done - what about Jilly Cooper, why wasn't she on the list?

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Auditor #9 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:09 am

Jilly Cooper - is she the horsey Mills and Boon type?

I have Douthwaite's book anyway which was tough to get even in the vast metropolis of Ennis (I don't shop on the internet at all Embarassed) but I still have to finish Collapse ...
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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by cactus flower on Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:35 am

I have Douthwaite too but will have to Amazon Stiglitz. Its easy Auditor #9 - visa in hand it takes about 2 minutes, then the book usually comes 3-7 days later.
Collapse is like eating muesli dry - the author's analogy of a boa constrictor with two or three goats in it was also not far off. I am on the third goat. Perhaps if we just took one last look at the things he says are the usefull lessons for avoiding Collapse, duty would be done ?

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Auditor #9 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:14 pm

cactus flower wrote: Collapse is like eating muesli dry - the author's analogy of a boa constrictor with two or three goats in it was also not far off. I am on the third goat. Perhaps if we just took one last look at the things he says are the usefull lessons for avoiding Collapse, duty would be done ?

I'm all for that ! It did get me back into reading though - I'd lost it somehow of late. I was visiting the Cedar Lounge site the other day where they were discussing some tome and got the idea of a project for the future in terms of discussion rather than debate where we could try to make a summary of the seminal Left theory/practice going around at present OR moreso maybe to have a look at a book or theory in history that was a departure from the Left of Marxist thought or something like that ("Economic Democracy" by Clifford Hugh Douglas came to mind - a book I came across in college which was written around the time of WWI and which took on Marxism in the light of new movements in energy and technology at the time. CH Douglas was an American major in WWI)

I have Douthwaite too but will have to Amazon Stiglitz. Its easy Auditor #9 - visa in hand it takes about 2 minutes, then the book usually comes 3-7 days later.



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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by Atticus on Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:33 pm

ah, glasses I hadn't expected. Figured on the rest!! Wink Very Happy

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Re: MN Book Club Book II: poll

Post by cactus flower on Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:10 pm

Atticus wrote:ah, glasses I hadn't expected. Figured on the rest!! Wink Very Happy


Same here, Atticus, except with me it was hair colour.

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